Prophet Motive and the changes on Ferenginar

[Oddish]

As of the time of "Prophet Motive", the Grand Nagus is fundamentally transformed by the Prophets.

Quark enters the wormhole and warns them that if they don't change him back, more Ferengi will enter the wormhole and never stop bugging the hell out of them.

The Prophets say yeah, fine and change him back... supposedly.

A short time later, Zek falls for a person he would normally have publicly shamed, if not worse: a female Ferengi suffragette.

A short time later, Zek advances full female suffrage on Ferenginar. And a year or two later, he dismantles the Nagus's autocracy and creates a welfare system.

Maybe the Prophets changed Zek back enough so that the Ferengi wouldn't immediately detect the change and wouldn't pester them anymore... but they didn't change him back completely.

Just a thought...


Also, given that the Prophets don't seem particularly murderous... what exactly did they do with that Jem'Hadar armada?

 

[herofhyrule]

Interesting theory. It's certainly the Prophets' way to subtly change things to their advantage and before 'Prophet Motive' Zek does seem a lot more profit-oriented then he does later on.

With regards to the Dominion armada, I believe in beta canon they only displaced it it time, and at some point in the future it reemerged. In alpha canon, they probably just destroyed the armada. They've certainly been known to do morally questionable things when it suits them, like possessing a woman and making her give birth.

 

[Takeru]

With regards to the Dominion armada, I believe in beta canon ...

There's no such thing, the novels are non canon.

 

[Tosk]

what exactly did they do with that Jem'Hadar armada?

I always assumed they just sent them somewhen else, as they did with Akorem.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Maybe they sent the Armada to a far corner of the Gamma Quadrant.

As for Zek, if he remembered what they did, perhaps the good remained. He got a new perspective as a result of the experience. That opened his mind and so he didn't dismiss Ishka out of hand. And that led to some good for Ferenginar.

 

[dupersuper]

There's no such thing, the novels are non canon.

???????

 

[Takeru]

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That was pretty self explanatory. There's no "beta canon".

 

[dupersuper]

That was pretty self explanatory. There's no "beta canon".

Wow. Every one on this board shall be crushed.

 

[Takeru]

Wow. Every one on this board shall be crushed.

I'm just stating a fact, you might have a problem with that but I don't care enough to be baited into a pointless discussion. Goodbye.

 

[Mx_MossBall]

This actually makes a lot of sense, going to add it to my headcanon when doing the next rewatch.

Also this lead to Rom, Mr "workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains", becoming nagus. Could have been the prophets saw that changing him (partially) back would lead to more changes on ferengi society.

 

[Oddish]

It's too bad, though. The Ferengi were an interesting culture.

 

[at Quark's]

Maybe the Prophets changed Zek back enough so that the Ferengi wouldn't immediately detect the change and wouldn't pester them anymore... but they didn't change him back completely.

Interesting theory, I like it.

Also, given that the Prophets don't seem particularly murderous... what exactly did they do with that Jem'Hadar armada?

Wherever /whenever the Prophets sent them, they would be doomed without Ketracel White. Unless of course they also healed them of their White dependency while they were at it. If not, outright eliminating them might still have been the more merciful option.

 

[Oddish]

Or eliminating their violent nature. If they can make the Ferengi less avaricious, shouldn't be that hard.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I always assumed they just sent them somewhen else, as they did with Akorem.

Akorem was sent back to Bajor in his own time period. He went back to where he was supposed to be.

As for the Jem'Hadar armada, we have no idea. Perhaps they were sent outside the galaxy where they would have no one to endanger?

 

[Oddish]

Akorem was sent back to Bajor in his own time period. He went back to where he was supposed to be.

It's strangely ironic... Akorem's greatest desire was to be of service to the Prophets, and he was. But not in the way he imagined, and he never remembered having done it.

 

[Tosk]

Akorem was sent back to Bajor in his own time period.

Like I said. Somewhen else. I was actually thinking of the first Prophet-induced trip he took, but both trips were still to another time period.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I'm just stating a fact, you might have a problem with that but I don't care enough to be baited into a pointless discussion. Goodbye.

Beta Canon is a term some people use to refer to non-canonical sources, probably taken from the Memory Beta wiki. It's a similar term to Apocrypha, but less vague, and clearly a separate idea than canon itself.

It's not a pointless discussion, but a simple semantic argument with someone using a phrase you're unfamiliar with. No need to lose any sleep over it.

 

[Takeru]

Beta Canon is a term some people use to refer to non-canonical sources, probably taken from the Memory Beta wiki. It's a similar term to Apocrypha, but less vague, and clearly a separate idea than canon itself.

It's not a pointless discussion, but a simple semantic argument with someone using a phrase you're unfamiliar with. No need to lose any sleep over it.

Memory Beta calls itself the non-canon Star Trek Wiki. Calling it beta canon implies the information is some sort of canon which it isn't.

 

[Ferengi Prime 5]

Also, given that the Prophets don't seem particularly murderous... what exactly did they do with that Jem'Hadar armada?

I think what happen to Jem'Hader, is what happen to Akorem Laan. Who was trapped in the worm hole for 200 years. The prophets heal and returned him but two hundred years later. I figure the prophets will discharge them back into the Gama quadrant someday...