We're Trek fans. We drink and we judge movies by their trailers.
It's what we do...
It's what we do...
Prometheus 2: Apparently it's happening
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That was great trailer, it definitely got me pumped for the movie. I actually liked Prometheus and this already got my interest even more than that did.
EDIT: IGN has a new interview with Katherine Waterston.
EDIT: IGN has a new interview with Katherine Waterston.
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We're Trek fans. We drink and we judge movies by their trailers.
It's what we do...
I used to think nothing of it. But lately, every fandom does it. New trailer comes out, and people have judge the entire movie by it. Star Wars, Star Trek, MCU, DCEU, Alien. It happened with the BladeRunner 2049 trailer.
And I know. I know it shouldn't surprise me. I should simply let it go. And any given day, I will simply shrug and move on. But the post I commented on..... Really? REALLY? Asuming that the movie won't answer any of the questions you have, because the trailer didn't answer them? Wow......
Actually there are other aliens in the Alien universe. The FCC Inquiry rep mentions that Ripley was referring to "something never found in over 300 surveyed worlds" but then goes into detailed description of the creatures rather than just stopping at the mere fact Ripley mentioned an alien.
The Marines refer to "Arcturians", are dismissive of the fact that Ripley "saw an alien once" as if it's nothing special, and Hudson and Hicks at their briefing seem to refer to "bug-hunts" as dealing with alien life-forms is a pretty routine mission for the USCM (Gorman's labelling of the Xenomorph has been believed to mean JUST to be referring to the Alien, but the way he talks seems to indicate this is just a generic term for extra-terrestrial life).
Now, the Predators could be the only sentient form of life however.
Plus if the trailer does answer the questions, then people complain that the movie was spoiled as they gave away too much.
Judging from this image, the hooded figure seem to be to masculine to be Shaw.... What we see from the face, I'm thinking it's David.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-096.jpg
Trailer looks well made but that's not a quality assurance that the movie will be good too.
So far it seems like yet another group finds aliens, gets infected and then picked off one by one. I hope this is only the surface story and the movie takes us in a new direction because if that is all to it i'll probably pass as i have seen this already multiple times (and well done too).
So far it seems like yet another group finds aliens, gets infected and then picked off one by one. I hope this is only the surface story and the movie takes us in a new direction because if that is all to it i'll probably pass as i have seen this already multiple times (and well done too).
If that is the case I now think Mr Scott has run out of ideas..... IF that is true then this isn't in any way shape or form a sequel to prometheus, that's the movie I've been wanting not another slasher.
I swear, Ridley Scott can't win.
Prometheus comes out: "Goddammit, what is this bullshit? The Space Jockey didn't need to be explained, why are we farting around with black goo? Where are the fucking Xenomorphs?"
Alien Covenant trailer drops: "Goddammit, what is this bullshit? We don't need to see more Xenomorphs, why are we farting around with them? Where's the fucking follow-up to Prometheus?"
Prometheus comes out: "Goddammit, what is this bullshit? The Space Jockey didn't need to be explained, why are we farting around with black goo? Where are the fucking Xenomorphs?"
Alien Covenant trailer drops: "Goddammit, what is this bullshit? We don't need to see more Xenomorphs, why are we farting around with them? Where's the fucking follow-up to Prometheus?"
But didn't nearly all Alien movies follow the same template as the first one?
Alien - crew finds alien eggs, one crewmember gets infected and the resulting Alien kills the entire crew until it is killed itself
Aliens - a military unit gets sent to the Alien planet and has to fight off a horde of Aliens until they die soldier by soldier before the last few can escape
Alien 3 - the remaining people from Aliens crash land on a prison planet, one stowaway egg creates a new egg and that Alien kills almost all the inmates of the complex before it is killed
Alien 4 - Scientists try to research Alien for military purposes, Aliens get loose and kill nearly everybody before being stopped (or the last main characters escape.. can't remember)
Prometheus - Science crew gets sent to a mysterious planet and finds an alien race that apparently has been wiped out by Aliens/Xenomorphs.. they awaken Proto-Xenomorphs and get killed off one by one
Only the small details change but the recipe is nearly always the same. For the first two movies that worked.. the first one had its own story even if it was also basically a variation of any kind of horror movie where a group of people gets picked off one by one by a murderer/psychopath(monster only it was set in space and the created atmosphere of the movie was so well done. Aliens was a testosterone filled action movie with a crapload of guns and combat, cool one liners and an iconic final battle.
Everything that came after were just rehashes with few things that added to the universe or made it its own uniqe story (if you want to call it that). So yes.. Scott tried something new with Prometheus but failed to make a cohesive film that made sense. It seemed like a garlbed mess without focus.
The trailer just seemed to rehash more of the same and i have little confidence but i'm also willing to eat my words if the movie really has something add or goes into unexpected terrirtory.
Alien - crew finds alien eggs, one crewmember gets infected and the resulting Alien kills the entire crew until it is killed itself
Aliens - a military unit gets sent to the Alien planet and has to fight off a horde of Aliens until they die soldier by soldier before the last few can escape
Alien 3 - the remaining people from Aliens crash land on a prison planet, one stowaway egg creates a new egg and that Alien kills almost all the inmates of the complex before it is killed
Alien 4 - Scientists try to research Alien for military purposes, Aliens get loose and kill nearly everybody before being stopped (or the last main characters escape.. can't remember)
Prometheus - Science crew gets sent to a mysterious planet and finds an alien race that apparently has been wiped out by Aliens/Xenomorphs.. they awaken Proto-Xenomorphs and get killed off one by one
Only the small details change but the recipe is nearly always the same. For the first two movies that worked.. the first one had its own story even if it was also basically a variation of any kind of horror movie where a group of people gets picked off one by one by a murderer/psychopath(monster only it was set in space and the created atmosphere of the movie was so well done. Aliens was a testosterone filled action movie with a crapload of guns and combat, cool one liners and an iconic final battle.
Everything that came after were just rehashes with few things that added to the universe or made it its own uniqe story (if you want to call it that). So yes.. Scott tried something new with Prometheus but failed to make a cohesive film that made sense. It seemed like a garlbed mess without focus.
The trailer just seemed to rehash more of the same and i have little confidence but i'm also willing to eat my words if the movie really has something add or goes into unexpected terrirtory.
I can only speak for myself of course, but my problems with Prometheus (which I liked overall BTW) had nothing to do with it's Xenomorph to Engineer ratio and more to do with the poor plotting, shallow and/or ill defined character motivations and a garbled narrative.
I have no "concerns" about this movie since I've only seen a sodding teaser and that tells me nothing besides it being an Alien movie where people die...but I think we all knew that already, no? I'll wait until I see the final product before I start forming opinions.
I have no "concerns" about this movie since I've only seen a sodding teaser and that tells me nothing besides it being an Alien movie where people die...but I think we all knew that already, no? I'll wait until I see the final product before I start forming opinions.
Yeah! Screw all you people who think this trailer looks good! Wait until you see it in the cinema before judging! I made that mistake with 'Suicide Squad'.
Stupid good trailers messing up my experience...
That definite article needs be replaced with a big, bad, all-inclusive indefinite article.
It's a subset of different people each time. It's not the same fickle people, for the most part. And most complaints wanted a story that made sense without the idiot characters and to have a high degree of connectivity instead of the oblique ties they got - whether it had an expansive story or just alien gore.
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Well would real scientists do half the stuff they did in that movie?
What about the geologists and their fancy mapping balls, and they still get lost?
I dunno, I always thought that the entire 'real scientists' arguement was kinda odd. I mean, 100 years from now, ok? We have tricorder like devices that can tell if the atmosphere is ok to breath. We've been using them for 30 years without issue. So we trust them, right? That's what they did. The same thing with the guy wanting to touch the alien snake creature. I mean, these guys life for this shit. Try telling me that scientists finding new life somewhere in the Amazon wouldn't want to touch it.
Thing is, we KNOW this is a horror movie and that it's stupid to take of your helmet on the creepy planet. However, as a scientist, fully trusting your instruments, I think it's pretty normal.
Then again, I'm not a scientist and have no clue about actual procedures. So I might be right, I might be wrong. In the mean time, I'm not going to stop my limited knowledge of a certain field be a part of me enjoying a movie. I'll leave that the actual scientists. Them taking of their helmets and touching snakes made half the shit in this movie happen, so I'm glad they did.
At the risk of starting a four year old argument.... the movie made it very clear that these were the dregs of the scientific community. The only crazy losers desperate enough to sign up with a corporation who told them nothing about where they were going with a crackpot archeologist leading them everyone thought was insane. They were never supposed to be legitimate scientists. Weyland was only bringing them on as a cover story, he didn't actually care what they did.
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