^ You can tell Ridley Scott is winking to the audience with that scene! "Gotcha!"
Prometheus 2: Apparently it's happening
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So how is this a prequel again? This just feels like an ALien reboot.
Does Ridley Scott not watch his previous movies (and James Cameron)?
The timeframe seems off... I mean another colony that has an Alien problem???
By Aliens, it seems like man has already established colonies before, so they can handle the set up by the time of Aliens.
Prometheus blew the chance of setting up the Alien ship as the one The Company wanted to investigate and get the Alien to bring home. Covenant feels like filler. And what is David & Naomi's character going to do...?
Does Ridley Scott not watch his previous movies (and James Cameron)?
The timeframe seems off... I mean another colony that has an Alien problem???
By Aliens, it seems like man has already established colonies before, so they can handle the set up by the time of Aliens.
Prometheus blew the chance of setting up the Alien ship as the one The Company wanted to investigate and get the Alien to bring home. Covenant feels like filler. And what is David & Naomi's character going to do...?
Actually, yes, we see David walking through some sort of temple filled with dead Engineers.
Also, the dog tag that Daniels finds pretty clearly reads "Dr. E. Shaw," so I'm guessing she be dead.
Noomi Rapace is supposed to be in the movie somewhere I believe, but I guess there is always the chance it could just be a flashback/video clip of some sort or maybe just a cameo as a dead body.
The trailer was pretty cool. It looks like it has a lot of potential to me, I liked Promtheus and I like how this one seems to be combining the good points of Prometheus with the good points from the earlier Alien movies.
The trailer was pretty cool. It looks like it has a lot of potential to me, I liked Promtheus and I like how this one seems to be combining the good points of Prometheus with the good points from the earlier Alien movies.
It's continuing the story begun in Prometheus, while simultaneously course-correcting to give fans more of what they expected from an Alien prequel. "They want Aliens, I'll GIVE them @#%*#^( Aliens!!!"
He'd better have. He ordered the cast and crew of Covenant to all sit down and watch Alien before they began production. (That, and the above quote from Ridley, came from a JoBlo set report.)
The Covenant colony vessel's been diverted off course by a distress call, apparently from David. This isn't the world they were heading for, and its' apparent suitability for human life thus comes as a complete shock to them.
Right now, the Company doesn't even know about the other ship. Only Weyland knew, and he only shared that knowledge with David. (Prometheus Blu-Ray extras) The dot remaining to be connected here is how/when David shared the knowledge about that other ship on LV-426 with Weyland-Yutani.
David/Shaw's fate... that's the part the trailers/promotion are deliberately holding back. That's the story Ridley's really wanting to tell, with the Aliens as the bait to lure the audience to it.
The Engineer ships have to be the crappiest ships in the galaxy. All of them seem to end up derelicts with xenomorph eggs left behind
Did the Xenomorph forget that it's acid can eat through floors and probably glass windows
Looks like an "Alien" remake and Dr Manhattan sets things in motion.
-ANOTHER Engineer ship that is abandoned
-Someone sticks their head into an egg that's opening up
-Jovial crew eating and someone choking.
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Did the Xenomorph forget that it's acid can eat through floors and probably glass windows
Looks like an "Alien" remake and Dr Manhattan sets things in motion.
-ANOTHER Engineer ship that is abandoned
-Someone sticks their head into an egg that's opening up
-Jovial crew eating and someone choking.
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That would satisfy my puzzlement about the Covenant crew walking around the planet with weapons when they're suppose to be colonists.
Alternative take: The Engineer ships have to be the best ships in the galaxy. All of them seem to be able to survive structurally sound with their cargo intact and in some cases, fully functional despite millennia of neglect in harsh environments or even after pretty hard crash landings and exposure to active lava flows.
Seriously, just look at the hull. Given the amount of particulate matter and the seemingly constant winds of LV-426 prior to terraforming, the hull of that derelict should have been turned into Swiss cheese from erosion in just a few decades. Given that it didn't seem to be as much as scratched after several millennia says that the outer skin must be made out of something either very hard, or capable of automatic self-repair.
That's almost certainly the same one we saw taking off at the end of Prometheus.
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Alien race called the Engineers. In actuality very bad at Engineering.
Previously known as space Jockeys. Not a single horse in sight.
Previously known as space Jockeys. Not a single horse in sight.
Is it me or does this planet the colonists land on look suspiciously like the planet that the first Engineer landed on in Prometheus where he drank the black oil? I know the implication of that scene was that it was the instance of life-creation on Earth, but what if it wasn't? What if it was happening at the same time as the rest of the movie, but on this new planet, which is why there are no sounds, "no birds", or other signs of indigenous life...yet? The scenery and cinematography looks strikingly similar and I don't think it's just because Ridley Scott had a hand in the art design. Nothing in his world seems just "thrown in there" for the hell of it. I sense a purpose there.
I have a strong hunch that you're probably right (especially with the shot of David in the Engineer temple). Scott is one of the most meticulous and detail-obsessed filmmakers working today (the only other one who's even close is probably Fincher) and in his films, pretty much nothing is an accident. A friend of mine did production design work on Prometheus, and he has oodles of stories about how obsessive Scott was on the tiniest pieces of set dressing.
Ah, I thought that scenery looked familiar but I couldn't place it. I suspect you're right as well, 137th Gebirg.
I would say Wes Anderson is up there, too.
Man, you know what I really learned from all of this? Fans are idiots.
Give is something that's new and fresh but still in the same universe
Prometheus happens.
This sucks!! It's not Alien. Gives us something more like Alien.
Alien Covenant happens.
WTF is this?!?!?1 This is just an Alien remake. We don't want that.
Effing insane fans.....
Give is something that's new and fresh but still in the same universe
Prometheus happens.
This sucks!! It's not Alien. Gives us something more like Alien.
Alien Covenant happens.
WTF is this?!?!?1 This is just an Alien remake. We don't want that.
Effing insane fans.....
In 'Blade Runner' Scott even produced magazines with articles for dressing up the newstand, a set piece which was just in the background. He created an entire, consistent fictional world in which you can film anywhere you want to as if you are on location.
True. People complained because Prometheus wasn't "Alien 0.5" and chances are people are gonna complain if Alien: Covenant won't be "Prometheus 2".
(For the record though my problems with Prometheus were the huge script holes (for me at least) and the characters doing one stupid thing after another.)
I personally love them all. Well, most of them, anyway. Loved Alien and Aliens of course. Even kind of liked Alien 3, even though it needlessly killed off Newt, Hicks and Bishop. Hated Alien: Resurrection, which is weird for me because I really like Joss Whedon's writing. Shoe-horning in the Ripley character 200 years after Alien 3, IMO, was just stupid stunt-casting. The alien-human "child" hybrid was also misguided and Winona Ryder's character was a block of wood. The only thing good about that movie, again IMO, was the Betty crew, being a proto-Firefly line-up that clicks pretty well. Always been a Ron Pearlman and Michael Wincott fan. Their presence helped a pretty helpless film.
And, yes, I'm one of those weirdos who actually liked the AVP and all the Predator(s) movies and loved Prometheus. They appealed to the Ancient Aliens enthusiast in me.
And, yes, I'm one of those weirdos who actually liked the AVP and all the Predator(s) movies and loved Prometheus. They appealed to the Ancient Aliens enthusiast in me.
I personally love them all. Well, most of them, anyway. Loved Alien and Aliens of course. Even kind of liked Alien 3, even though it needlessly killed off Newt, Hicks and Bishop. Hated Alien: Resurrection, which is weird for me because I really like Joss Whedon's writing. Shoe-horning in the Ripley character 200 years after Alien 3, IMO, was just stupid stunt-casting. The alien-human "child" hybrid was also misguided and Winona Ryder's character was a block of wood. The only thing good about that movie, again IMO, was the Betty crew, being a proto-Firefly line-up that clicks pretty well. Always been a Ron Pearlman and Michael Wincott fan. Their presence helped a pretty helpless film.
And, yes, I'm one of those weirdos who actually liked the AVP and all the Predator(s) movies and loved Prometheus. They appealed to the Ancient Aliens enthusiast in me.
Right there with you. Hell, I even like Resurrection the same way I like AvP and AvP2; entertaintment value! And the Predator movies, hell yeah!! And Prometheus?? Dude, I can watch that once a month and still love it!!
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