Prince Henry's Wedding
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I'll be going to the cinema that day, so I don't think it'll affect me too much. No doubt it will be heavily featured on the news, and there have been one or two adverts.
I don't actually recall watching any of the Royal Weddings while I've been alive though. For the last one, I think we'd gone out for the day Karting/Bowling etc.
I don't actually recall watching any of the Royal Weddings while I've been alive though. For the last one, I think we'd gone out for the day Karting/Bowling etc.
with all the pomp and circumstance, you'd think that
Surely that's just rumor?
Incorrect.
I can't make it to the wedding, unfortunately. Best wishes to the groom and bride!
Wasn't like the whole Church of England created so King Henry could divorce and remarry? Or is it only okay for the man?
The Queen not attending the wedding because of a divorce background would be ridicoulous. Princess Anne, Prince Andrew and Prince Charles are divorced - it was a tough time for the Queen, but she endured. But she obviously has a say regarding to Meghan's wedding dress.....
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The church later changed its view, see Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson on this subject. Edward had to abdicate his position to marry Ms Simpson (there was of course the fact that he supported Hitler, and forcing him to abdicate over a divorcee was in no way to prevent a Nazi sitting on our throne. No, of course not ) .
As for Harry and Meghans wedding, the media seems excited, but everyone I know seems to want it all to be over (preferably before the FA cup starts).
Yes, yes it was! And the wives died....he wanted a male heir, and didn't get one until the 5th one, I
believe.
Well, I'm not a Brit... but I am a Canadian monarchist who will be getting up in the wee hours to watch this live (last time I did this was when Charles and Diana got married).
I'm curious to see just how weird the hats are this time around.
Catherine of Aragon was divorced so Henry could marry Anne Boleyn (Catherine had borne numerous babies, but the only one that survived was Mary, later Queen Mary). When Anne had Elizabeth (later Elizabeth I) but couldn't produce a son, he had her executed on trumped-up charges of adultery, incest, and witchcraft, and shortly after her execution he married Jane Seymour (with whom he'd been having an affair during Anne's last pregnancy).
Jane Seymour produced the long-awaited son, Edward... but died a few days later. Henry had his heir, but wanted a spare so he married Anne of Cleves. They didn't get along at all for numerous reasons, and she agreed to a divorce settlement and the title of "King's Sister" (or however it was called) because she was afraid that if she didn't, he'd find a reason to execute her as well. In the meantime, Henry had been carrying on with one of her ladies in waiting, Catherine Howard.
So Henry married Catherine Howard, who was a brainless, giddy teenager with a past. She fell in love with one of the King's men (Thomas Culpepper) and they carried on a love affair. They were caught, and both were executed.
Some time later Henry decided he'd like to be married yet again, and chose Catherine Parr. By that time he wanted a wife more for a companion/nursemaid than for getting his spare son. Things went okay for awhile, until Henry started changing his mind on religion every other Tuesday. At first he was happy to discuss religion with his wife, and even encouraged her in her writing (unusually for that time, she did have a book published under her own name). But later he decided that her religious views were unacceptable, and it wasn't right that she should hold discussions with other women about religion. He'd actually decided to execute her - the warrant had been signed and the guards were on the way to deliver it, when she realized what was going on and literally begged for her life, promising to obey him in all things and never again presume to think or say any opinion unless he approved of it.
So he spared her. She quit writing, quit having her discussion groups, and managed to live long enough that Henry died. She later married one of Jane Seymour's surviving brothers, with whom she'd been in love for years, before her marriage to Henry.
So to sum up: There were 6 wives, two of whom were divorced, two of whom were beheaded, one died due to childbirth complications, and the last one survived because Henry died first. The third wife gave him his only legitimate son, but it's his "bastard" daughters Mary (aka Bloody Mary) and Elizabeth I who are the ones history remembers the most.
I'm curious to see just how weird the hats are this time around.
Nope. There's a mnemonic to remember what happened to the wives: Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.Yes, yes it was! And the wives died....he wanted a male heir, and didn't get one until the 5th one, I
believe.
Catherine of Aragon was divorced so Henry could marry Anne Boleyn (Catherine had borne numerous babies, but the only one that survived was Mary, later Queen Mary). When Anne had Elizabeth (later Elizabeth I) but couldn't produce a son, he had her executed on trumped-up charges of adultery, incest, and witchcraft, and shortly after her execution he married Jane Seymour (with whom he'd been having an affair during Anne's last pregnancy).
Jane Seymour produced the long-awaited son, Edward... but died a few days later. Henry had his heir, but wanted a spare so he married Anne of Cleves. They didn't get along at all for numerous reasons, and she agreed to a divorce settlement and the title of "King's Sister" (or however it was called) because she was afraid that if she didn't, he'd find a reason to execute her as well. In the meantime, Henry had been carrying on with one of her ladies in waiting, Catherine Howard.
So Henry married Catherine Howard, who was a brainless, giddy teenager with a past. She fell in love with one of the King's men (Thomas Culpepper) and they carried on a love affair. They were caught, and both were executed.
Some time later Henry decided he'd like to be married yet again, and chose Catherine Parr. By that time he wanted a wife more for a companion/nursemaid than for getting his spare son. Things went okay for awhile, until Henry started changing his mind on religion every other Tuesday. At first he was happy to discuss religion with his wife, and even encouraged her in her writing (unusually for that time, she did have a book published under her own name). But later he decided that her religious views were unacceptable, and it wasn't right that she should hold discussions with other women about religion. He'd actually decided to execute her - the warrant had been signed and the guards were on the way to deliver it, when she realized what was going on and literally begged for her life, promising to obey him in all things and never again presume to think or say any opinion unless he approved of it.
So he spared her. She quit writing, quit having her discussion groups, and managed to live long enough that Henry died. She later married one of Jane Seymour's surviving brothers, with whom she'd been in love for years, before her marriage to Henry.
So to sum up: There were 6 wives, two of whom were divorced, two of whom were beheaded, one died due to childbirth complications, and the last one survived because Henry died first. The third wife gave him his only legitimate son, but it's his "bastard" daughters Mary (aka Bloody Mary) and Elizabeth I who are the ones history remembers the most.
I don't like weddings period. I'm sorry. I don't have the attention span to sit through without being rude. it manifests as such: Playing with the program. Looking at the decor, yawning, watching others be bored. etc. But I'm glad Harry has a slice of happiness. I wish him the best.
Yes, yes it was! And the wives died....he wanted a male heir, and didn't get one until the 5th one, I
believe.
If you talk about Henry VIII it is certainly right. Two wives were beheaded for not giving birth to a male child. That's creepy. I've read about an American family, they have 13 children. Only sons, and healthy ones.
Henry lived during a time with high child death rates, though. But he envied other kings with their healthy sons I would think.
No matter the gender of Meghan and Harry's children, they will be certainly cute.
I knew most of that, but I'm filled with envy because my interest doesn't go that far as to weed through all that...
in the often muddled historical records (negative and positive) that incorporate those times...
Thanks!
EDIT: Now Edward, apathetic but dying, restored Mary to inheritance, who was Catholic, while Elizabeth was
Mary's stated heir. Though 'Protestant'. Lady Jane Grey and her Clan...
The War of the Roses revisited...
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One kid was molesting his sister...And they are Evangelical Christians.
EDIT: How different history would be if Catherine of Aragorn had a surviving male child...
I think the family you're thinking of is the Duggars...They have 19! And a defunct TV show.
One kid was molesting his sister...And they are Evangelical Christians.
EDIT: How different history would be if Catherine of Aragorn had a surviving male child...
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Thomas Cromwell was instrumental in Anne's downfall. He was later also executed due to heresy and high treason.
Jane Seymour's son Edward died as teenager. He was too young for regency, had one of his uncles as Lord Protector. Thomas Seymour's head was cut off, too.
16th century Europe was quite barbaric, wasn't it.
I knew most of that, but I'm filled with envy because my interest doesn't go that far as to weed through all that...
in the often muddled historical records (negative and positive) that incorporate those times...
Thanks!
EDIT: Now Edward restored Mary to inheritance, but was Catholic, while Elizabeth was
Mary's stated heir. Though 'Protestant'. Lady Jane Grey and her Clan
The War of the Roses revisited...
Elizabeth I was great. But she died without heir, James V of Scotland followed her. Mary Queen of Scots' son, of all people..... Just to continue to story....
Assuming he wasn't frail and succumbed to illness though, right?
