Sometimes the newer thing is just that much crappier. I'm not particularly fond of the PT, but the ST made it look like Shakespeare by comparison.
Predictions for Star Trek under Skydance?
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For whatever it's worth, I was ambivalent on the OT, disliked the PT, and loved The Force Awakens and especially The Last Jedi. It defied expectations, wrecked the status quo and it's online reception became a dry run for Russian interference in American politics. Rise of the Skywalker was meh.
It's possible that's what they originally had in mind, but the title they ultimately went with was The Rise of Skywalker.
Maybe they didn't want two films with the same acronym?
I don't even know what this means.
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Don't we already know this isn't what they're doing?
IIRC, this is the only new project that has been announced since Skydance took over:
New ‘Star Trek’ Movie In Works At Paramount From Jonathan Goldstein & John Francis Daley
Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley plan to write, direct and produce a new 'Star Trek' movie.
deadline.com
This actually sounds very good to me. Something NEW and Goldstein/Daley are pretty talented.
I don't even know what this means.
'Star Wars: The Last Jedi,' Russian Trolls, and the Disintegration of Discourse
A new study finds half of the negative tweets about the film were "likely politically motivated or not even human."
It's what we see in all online political discourse today
Trek has been "Woke" since 1966.
You're talking about fans who don't read, who equate anything "cerebral" with being "woke".
"Measure of a Man" would put these people to sleep.
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SFA season 2 filming wrapped last week.
Which means for the first time since discovery was announced in 2015, there’s no TV Trek currently being produced or any greenlit projects waiting to be produced.
That we know of at least.
Not counting SNW and SFA’s seasons currently in post production obviously
Which means for the first time since discovery was announced in 2015, there’s no TV Trek currently being produced or any greenlit projects waiting to be produced.
That we know of at least.
Not counting SNW and SFA’s seasons currently in post production obviously
It’ll be interesting to see where the franchise goes next. To be honest, I’m expecting a full clean slate, and I’d be surprised if the Kurtzman era continues. That’s a shame, because overall I’m really enjoying SFA at the moment.
It’s not that this era has been unsuccessful - it just feels like they want to take the franchise in a different direction. I wouldn’t be surprised if that involves creating a more connected movie/TV/expanded‑media universe.
One challenge, I think, is that in trying to elevate Star Trek to a big “tentpole franchise,” they’ve positioned it alongside things like Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy - big, action‑adventure, space‑opera sci‑fi. That comes with certain expectations. the Kelvinverse movies have felt catered towards that big, space opera action adventure audience, and the streaming shows have sort of reflected that tone, look, and approach. Less so on TV, but in the movies at least thats lost some of the ST optimism, thoughtfulness, pondering on life and moral debates etc that makes ST distinctive as a franchise.
What I’d love to see is a new approach - less Star Wars/Guardians, but inspired by higher-concept science fiction tentpole films like Interstellar, The Martian, Inception, or even The Matrix - still epic, still ambitious, but a different flavour of science fiction. Something that enables big, ambitious science fiction concepts in the universe, but gives more room for Trek’s trademark philosophy and thoughtfulness, while still delivering the scale expected of a major franchise. The issue is that ST's strength has come from it's moral quandaries, it's philosophical debates - and the space-opera model sometimes risks losing that. Something more in the realm of epic science-fiction, not space-opera, would give ST a more distinct flavour whilst having chance to play to it's strengths AND have the action and effects people love. Set it in the universe, keep the values, but movies could be individual stories.
My personal preference, though, would be to take a lesson from the recent Alien and Predator revivals. Both found success again with smaller, more focused budgets after years of trying to chase blockbuster‑level box office with blockbuster-level budgets with mixed results. Give Star Trek a modest but solid budget - enough to look great and deliver one or two standout set‑pieces. That’s exactly what the franchise used to do, and it worked right up until Nemesis.
It’s not that this era has been unsuccessful - it just feels like they want to take the franchise in a different direction. I wouldn’t be surprised if that involves creating a more connected movie/TV/expanded‑media universe.
One challenge, I think, is that in trying to elevate Star Trek to a big “tentpole franchise,” they’ve positioned it alongside things like Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy - big, action‑adventure, space‑opera sci‑fi. That comes with certain expectations. the Kelvinverse movies have felt catered towards that big, space opera action adventure audience, and the streaming shows have sort of reflected that tone, look, and approach. Less so on TV, but in the movies at least thats lost some of the ST optimism, thoughtfulness, pondering on life and moral debates etc that makes ST distinctive as a franchise.
What I’d love to see is a new approach - less Star Wars/Guardians, but inspired by higher-concept science fiction tentpole films like Interstellar, The Martian, Inception, or even The Matrix - still epic, still ambitious, but a different flavour of science fiction. Something that enables big, ambitious science fiction concepts in the universe, but gives more room for Trek’s trademark philosophy and thoughtfulness, while still delivering the scale expected of a major franchise. The issue is that ST's strength has come from it's moral quandaries, it's philosophical debates - and the space-opera model sometimes risks losing that. Something more in the realm of epic science-fiction, not space-opera, would give ST a more distinct flavour whilst having chance to play to it's strengths AND have the action and effects people love. Set it in the universe, keep the values, but movies could be individual stories.
My personal preference, though, would be to take a lesson from the recent Alien and Predator revivals. Both found success again with smaller, more focused budgets after years of trying to chase blockbuster‑level box office with blockbuster-level budgets with mixed results. Give Star Trek a modest but solid budget - enough to look great and deliver one or two standout set‑pieces. That’s exactly what the franchise used to do, and it worked right up until Nemesis.
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Just don't idiotically dump FTL travel like they did.
People are tribal. It's hard wired into our DNA. It's what has kept the species alive for two million years.
This notion that someday people are going to lock arms and skip down the primrose path together in unity and brotherhood is fanciful and naive. It ignores millions of years of evolution.
Surely the past ten years should've taught us that.
That said, we DO have the power of choice:
Captain James T. Kirk said:
Kurtzman Trek has gone back to the TOS era in a sense. It's acknowledged the dark, primitive side of human nature. It's a needed corrective to the chirpy, overly optimistic, sun splashed world of TNG.
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i wonder what the star trek universe will be like now since right wing trumpers are the new owners of paramount and skydance
Probably not all that much (They're letting South Park run rampant).
I would generally agree, but I do think the aesthetic, the principles of Star Trek in movie form have leaned into a sort of generic space-opera action/adventure trope. Star Trek has always traditionally been a little more/different to that - and I think that spirit could be leaned into a little more without losing "epicness"
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