Which only strengthens my resolve to dismiss the 725m-nonsense forever.
*Potential Spoilers* What will the Alternate Enterprise-A look like
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There are only windows every other deck. The saucer is 4 decks thick. But really, I don't understand anyone's hang up on the ship size. If it's the size of the TOS Enterprise, or the size of a Sovereign, so what? Who cares? What difference does it make? One of the silliest things to inspire fan rage.
I'm sure we can find some sillier stuff to rage about if we try.
People have tried before and failed. Starship sizes are simply inconsistent. Sometimes the Kelvin Enterprise is about the same size as the TOS version. Sometimes it's the size of a Galaxy class starship.
Hell, I think it changed scales at least twice in the first movie due to that silly-ass window on the bridge.
It's ranked up there with "Is Starfleet military?" and "Who's better, Kirk or Picard?" now. It is as timeless as it is inescapable.
It's ranked up there with "Is Starfleet military?" and "Who's better, Kirk or Picard?" now. It is as timeless as it is inescapable.
It's the incendiary days in which we live, now, sadly.
Why so quick to take something personally which may not have been directed at you at all?
Heaven knows, there have been enough other people around here wanting angry arguments about starship size that it necessitated a dedicated thread to contain them all. Don't be so eager to assume any comment is about you unless it's got your name on it.
Weeell technically then it's 5, three decks without and 2 with.
I mean this is a ship we see the inside of, and the dockyard scene shows a lot more than a two deck saucer.
Her designer, Sean Hargraves, said on Trekyards that shes 2500-feet long, about the same size as her predecessor. He said it's Hollywood and it's America, where the people in charge think bigger is better and that if he even suggested scaling the new Enterprise down to match the size of the original, he'd have been laughed out of the room.
That's from the guy who designed her.
Yeah, but what does he know? Amirite?
There are some elements of the design I like, but those have to be the ugliest pylons ever.
The real questions is what to call this class. If we assume the 1701 is still Constitution, this one is different enough that you can't really say it's the same class.
The real questions is what to call this class. If we assume the 1701 is still Constitution, this one is different enough that you can't really say it's the same class.
The "Nimitz Class" has two major sub classes given the significantly different internals after a certain hull number, that means personnel cannot be freely exchanged between the two without orientation courses so they don't literally get lost.
Also, the 1701 and 1701 TMP-TUC are both Constitution Class despite being about 90% physically altered entirely at least. They should not remotely be the same class, or the same ships, but they are.
This is a smaller change using everything learned from the 2258-2263 version updated. It seems in this universe given the sheer size (725m/2500ft) of the class, each one is built to order with changes and updates.
Also, the 1701 and 1701 TMP-TUC are both Constitution Class despite being about 90% physically altered entirely at least. They should not remotely be the same class, or the same ships, but they are.
This is a smaller change using everything learned from the 2258-2263 version updated. It seems in this universe given the sheer size (725m/2500ft) of the class, each one is built to order with changes and updates.
But other times we have things like the Soyuz and Miranda-classes which are virtually the same and yet are classed differently.
"The Best class" that's for sure.
Why not?
Well if it's the first of the class then that would actually make sense.
In the Prime timeline the TMP-TUC Constitution ships are still called that because they're supposed to be refits of (or based on) the original TOS-era hulls.
In the Kelvin universe that's obviously not the case, as the Ent-A is a separate new class, so it makes no sense whatsoever to also be named Constitution-class.
In the Kelvin universe that's obviously not the case, as the Ent-A is a separate new class, so it makes no sense whatsoever to also be named Constitution-class.
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