This is a PG-13 film. Much to violent for a PG rating.
I don't know, a lot of modern trek ''enterprise'' were given ''TV-14'' ratings.I'll be different and say I prefer PG, because most of the TV episodes would rate PG and it would be consistant. I don't really believe Star Trek is a kids show anyway, but I hope they don't feel they need to amp up the violence or sex appeal just for ratings. The story should be good enough for high ratings without any of the "extras".
If my parents are indicative of society at large, then chances are most parents wont give much of a crap about their kids seeing a PG-13 movie. Especially if LotR, RotS, The Dark Knight, etc are any indication.Based on previews I expect at least a PG13 and voted so, but I also see evidence of it being waved under the noses of kids younger than 13 so I am a little unsure of my choice.
They may hope the youngster's under 13 will tantrum their parents into taking them to see it.
Are the Countdown comics PG or PG-13? I think the movie will follow their lead.Well what do you think?![]()
I don't think you need blood to make it PG-13. The last Indiana Jones film was PG-13, and there wasn't a lot of gore and blood -- but plenty of killing and "adventure violence".Sorta, like the Dark Knight (PG-13,3) when that ''BAT-MAN'' was shown hanging at that window all cut-up and tortured, yet there's no ''BLOOD'' anywhere on him? Or when batman beats the ''CRAP'' out'a the joker in the police station, even raming his body up on that glass, yet there is no blood anywhere?PG-13.
There are three types of PG-13: 1) A naturally PG-13 movie, 2) An otherwise PG movie with some extra goodies thrown in to amp it up, 3) An R-rated movie with the guts cut out of it, figuratively and/or literally.
I think it's probably PG-13 # 2.
Oh, god. Here we go. So under the covers is a big nono, but getting stabbed in the stomach with a sharp pointy support beam is ok?and Nemesis had that "Riker and Troi under the covers" scene (which was pretty tame, but not for a 10-year old)
Is that really the point I was making in my post?...Hold on -- let me go back and read it again.Oh, god. Here we go. So under the covers is a big nono, but getting stabbed in the stomach with a sharp pointy support beam is ok?and Nemesis had that "Riker and Troi under the covers" scene (which was pretty tame, but not for a 10-year old)
Of course you might say that's PG-13 right there, but you didn't. You went for the consensual sex scene between Riker and Troi and use that as the number one reason why you should keep kiddies away from the movie. Not the gruesome death of Shinzon who pulls himself through a sharp metal beam that's going through his stomach, complete with sound effects and a scream of agony.
No...You seem to have missed the part of my post where I said First Contact and Nemesis was PG-13 for the "adventure violence". I only pointed out the consensual "sex" scene because I think it was part of the reason it got PG-13. If I didn't mention that scene, someone would have responded "don't forget the Riker/Troi bedroom scene".
I think the movie should be rated G to maximize audience potential.
Unfortunately a G rating does about as much to maximize audience potential as NC-17 does, thanks to movie-goers' prejudice. The perception is that a movie with a G rating is somehow watered down. Few adults wants to pay good money to see an airline version of a movie.
Unfortunately a G rating does about as much to maximize audience potential as NC-17 does, thanks to movie-goers' prejudice. The perception is that a movie with a G rating is somehow watered down.
Well, then we are only talking about the definition of the term "adventure violence". My point is this -- the level of violence in this film I think will be on par with First Contact, Nemesis, the last two Harry Potter films, the last two Indiana Jones films, the LOTR films, and Iron Man, which were all PG-13. Call it what you will, but that type of violence is always PG-13.No...You seem to have missed the part of my post where I said First Contact and Nemesis was PG-13 for the "adventure violence". I only pointed out the consensual "sex" scene because I think it was part of the reason it got PG-13. If I didn't mention that scene, someone would have responded "don't forget the Riker/Troi bedroom scene".
And I'm saying that the whole rating system doesn't really work well when you 'think' that it was rated PG-13 because of that love scene between Riker and Troi. You may say 'adventure violence', but I hardly regard Shinzon's death as such. The Viceroy being kicked and thus falling town the shaft and dying off screen? That's adventure violence.
We're putting Star Trek on the inappropriate level of The Dark Knight here, one of the most violent and brutal films of last year. That doesn't sound right.
Heck, the Disney 2D "PG-Rated" animated movie Lilo and Stitch made more money than the PG-13 movie "Minority Report".
Heck, the Disney 2D "PG-Rated" animated movie Lilo and Stitch made more money than the PG-13 movie "Minority Report".
Tab through these charts courtesy of BoxOfficeMojo. Overall, movies with a PG-13 rating make more money at the box office.
If my parents are indicative of society at large, then chances are most parents wont give much of a crap about their kids seeing a PG-13 movie. Especially if LotR, RotS, The Dark Knight, etc are any indication.Based on previews I expect at least a PG13 and voted so, but I also see evidence of it being waved under the noses of kids younger than 13 so I am a little unsure of my choice.
They may hope the youngster's under 13 will tantrum their parents into taking them to see it.
Anyways, im going to go with PG-13 as my answer.
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