This is a PG-13 film. Much to violent for a PG rating.
(Poll) PG ''or'' PG-13?
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I don't count that show.
I just don't acknowledge it in my mind. It also didn't last long.If my parents are indicative of society at large, then chances are most parents wont give much of a crap about their kids seeing a PG-13 movie. Especially if LotR, RotS, The Dark Knight, etc are any indication.
Anyways, im going to go with PG-13 as my answer.
Are the Countdown comics PG or PG-13? I think the movie will follow their lead.Well what do you think?
I think the movie should be rated G to maximize audience potential.
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I don't think you need blood to make it PG-13. The last Indiana Jones film was PG-13, and there wasn't a lot of gore and blood -- but plenty of killing and "adventure violence".
Nemesis and First Contact were both PG-13, but again not for "very graphic" violence, but for their "adventure violence"...and Nemesis had that "Riker and Troi under the covers" scene (which was pretty tame, but not for a 10-year old)
Oh, god. Here we go. So under the covers is a big nono, but getting stabbed in the stomach with a sharp pointy support beam is ok?
Of course you might say that's PG-13 right there, but you didn't. You went for the consensual sex scene between Riker and Troi and use that as the number one reason why you should keep kiddies away from the movie. Not the gruesome death of Shinzon who pulls himself through a sharp metal beam that's going through his stomach, complete with sound effects and a scream of agony.
Is that really the point I was making in my post?...Hold on -- let me go back and read it again.
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No...You seem to have missed the part of my post where I said First Contact and Nemesis were PG-13 for the "adventure violence". I only pointed out the consensual "sex" scene because I think it was part of the reason it got PG-13. If I didn't mention that scene, someone would have responded "don't forget the Riker/Troi bedroom scene".
And I'm saying that the whole rating system doesn't really work well when you 'think' that it was rated PG-13 because of that love scene between Riker and Troi. You may say 'adventure violence', but I hardly regard Shinzon's death as such. The Viceroy being kicked and thus falling town the shaft and dying off screen? That's adventure violence.
We're putting Star Trek on the inappropriate level of The Dark Knight here, one of the most violent and brutal films of last year. That doesn't sound right.
Spoken word of truth. G is pure gold in a lot of cases. The original DVD for "The Fast and the Furious" literally comes with a little feature explaining the editing process in 'watering down' the sequences to ensure a PG-13 rating instead of an R rating.
Heck, the Disney 2D "PG-Rated" animated movie Lilo and Stitch made more money than the PG-13 movie "Minority Report".
Well, then we are only talking about the definition of the term "adventure violence". My point is this -- the level of violence in this film I think will be on par with First Contact, Nemesis, the last two Harry Potter films, the last two Indiana Jones films, the LOTR films, and Iron Man, which were all PG-13. Call it what you will, but that type of violence is always PG-13.
My point is that since the violence in, say, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire or Iron man or LOTR is enough for a PG-13, then I suspect Star Trek will be PG-13.
And the fact still remains that two people presumably nude in bed together, with one on top of the other, is not something that usually is seen in a PG film and is sometimes "enough" to push a film into the PG-13 category -- depending of course on the rest of that particular film.
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Tab through these charts courtesy of BoxOfficeMojo. Overall, movies with a PG-13 rating make more money at the box office.
Summer action movies are nearly always rated PG13 nowadays; it seems to be the rating Hollywood now aims for when they want their widest audience. A PG13 flick can be edgy enough to attract teenagers but not so edgy it stops parents from bringing the kids.
Having said that, I don't think parents should be bringing the kids to many of these PG13 movies, but they do.
Having said that, I don't think parents should be bringing the kids to many of these PG13 movies, but they do.
Ya, and some movies that are good make more money regardless of rating.
This is very true...times have really changed and parents nowadays (some of them) are very very lax. I wasn't even allowed to see Saturday Night Fever when it came out @$#$*&*&&^&, yet my sisters kids have free run to do whatever the hell they want and that includes watching pretty much anything....i think we need to be somewhere in between those two extremes but that's another topic.
