Plot hole city: Part II!

[beamMe]

That whole scene wasn't necessary.

Star Trek as a franchise isn't "necessary" - what's your point?

The impact of a faster than light object with an atmosphere should have been dramatic. Like a mach 3 jet hitting the water. There should have been a shock wave....

Yeah... well... you know that in Star Trek the ships don't actually move but bent... no... warp the space around them to reach their destination... except when they actually do move...
Oh well, it's Star Trek.

Isn't that what Abrams was trying to do....RIGHT? Dramatic....and he MISSED...on the one part that would have worked to that drama style...

That scene, the visuals actually were quite dramatic just the way they were.

And did you see what they did with TITAN's atmosphere when it emerged? It was like the atmosphere was made of the heaviest and high density gas....at the border...of a vacuum.....

It really does boggle my mind the choices he made....

Who ever said that this was a choice made by Abrams?
That shot looks more like the particle-system was set for "faster rendering"

 

[Ghost Bones]

I watched this yesterday for the first time since the cinema. It's fucking shit; there was practically something wrong or stupid with every fucking scene.

One thing I did notice that I hadn't before (and it's not a plot hole as such, but...) is that every ship or shuttle seems to make a fucking Star Wars noise. Close your eyes and it could have been a pod race.

 

[F. King Daniel]

^You must be new to Trek

 

[Cyke101]

^You must be new to Trek

Remember when the Bird of Prey used Star Wars lasers to kill God in STV? Or how a few Star Wars lasers sound like Nomad's energy blast in The Changeling?

 

[number6]

Or how every one of those ships fly around in space, just like Star Wars??

 

[Gojira]

I watched this yesterday for the first time since the cinema. It's fucking shit; there was practically something wrong or stupid with every fucking scene.

I watched the same movie and thought they got a whole bunch right!!!

One thing I did notice that I hadn't before (and it's not a plot hole as such, but...) is that every ship or shuttle seems to make a fucking Star Wars noise. Close your eyes and it could have been a pod race.

Since I like Star Wars too I have no problem with the sound effects. I love how the star ships in the new movie go to warp speed.

 

[Cyke101]

Since I like Star Wars too I have no problem with the sound effects. I love how the star ships in the new movie go to warp speed.

I liked it too. The sound effects for the STXI warp streak really sound like the next step in the TNG/DS9/VOY warp line (particularly the three-nacelled ship that warps last before Enterprise). My only complaint is that I missed seeing/hearing a white flash. Combine the warp streak with the warp flash (maybe a small one to denote distance) and imo, that's a winner.

And is that scientifically accurate? Who knows, and who cares? I like sonic booms. In space.

 

[Gojira]

Since I like Star Wars too I have no problem with the sound effects. I love how the star ships in the new movie go to warp speed.

I liked it too. The sound effects for the STXI warp streak really sound like the next step in the TNG/DS9/VOY warp line (particularly the three-nacelled ship that warps last before Enterprise). My only complaint is that I missed seeing/hearing a white flash. Combine the warp streak with the warp flash (maybe a small one to denote distance) and imo, that's a winner.

And is that scientifically accurate? Who knows, and who cares? I like sonic booms. In space.

I too wouldn't mind seeing the flash of light when the warp. But the sound and the speed finally look like the star ship is really moving unlike how it was in the series and other movies.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I always hated the "warp poof" (white flash). When I was little, I thought the TNG intro featured the ship exploding twice, just for dramatic effect.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yeah like Cyke101 said, I always thought of the "warp poof" as a "sonic boom". But with light, ya know, because they're breaking light speed.

Of course, in its day the Millennium Falcon going to hyperspace in the first Star Wars was the shit.

 

[AJBryant]

It's fucking shit; <...> every fucking scene.

<...> fucking Star Wars noise.

Dude, you kiss your momma with that mouth?

Seriously, though -- have you never learned to regulate your vocabulary in polite company?

 

[Broccoli]

The warp effect was completely scientifically inaccurate in the new movie. TOS got it right on how it would look.

Trust me. I'm a whale biologist.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Star Trek has always had sound in space. Engine noise, phaser, torpedo, disrupter fire, oh and antiproton beams.

I must admit though that looking at the silent explosions in Balance of Terror, when the Enterprise is laying down barrage patterns, makes that scene in particular seem far more realistic, and therefore more dramatic, at least in this case, than it could have been if they had put in boom sounds.

 

[number6]

I'm glad they got rid of that Kirk/Wookie scene from the first draft.

 

[Broccoli]

I'm glad they got rid of that Kirk/Wookie scene from the first draft.

Are kidding me?! That was the best scene!

 

[number6]

It looked pretty messy. Lots of CGI and fig leafs.. It would have never been believable.
The scene was full of plotholes, like how Kirk's eyes are brown.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well, the brown fur made the blue eyes stand out worse than the fact that Chewbacca isn't even a Star Trek character.

 

[Cyke101]

I always hated the "warp poof" (white flash). When I was little, I thought the TNG intro featured the ship exploding twice, just for dramatic effect.

As a youth I was more bothered by the Enterprise stretching like a rubber band twice.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

^ I think that makes sense, as it were, since the idea of a warp drive is to overcome relativistic limitations by warping space. When warping space, you'd expect certain observers to see distorted proportions.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I watched this yesterday for the first time since the cinema. It's fucking shit; there was practically something wrong or stupid with every fucking scene.

One thing I did notice that I hadn't before (and it's not a plot hole as such, but...) is that every ship or shuttle seems to make a fucking Star Wars noise. Close your eyes and it could have been a pod race.

That's because you were actually watching The Phantom Menace, which explains your first paragraph as well.