Plinkett gets REVENGE
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I'm bored... 
Could you people shift your nitpicking focus on stuff like space-Jesus, the Jedi idiotically allowing themselves to be Palpatine's puppets (WTF, a clone army? Who ordered it? - Jedi master Syfo-Dyas! - That mothafucka been dead for 10 years, man! Something fishy here... Meh, whatever, lets take the order kick some separatist ass!)...
You know, the important stuff?
Midichlorians may not be TEH FORCE, but they ARE stupid. We can all agree on that, no?
Also, from another board, in teh interwebs far far away:
Could you people shift your nitpicking focus on stuff like space-Jesus, the Jedi idiotically allowing themselves to be Palpatine's puppets (WTF, a clone army? Who ordered it? - Jedi master Syfo-Dyas! - That mothafucka been dead for 10 years, man! Something fishy here... Meh, whatever, lets take the order kick some separatist ass!)...
You know, the important stuff?
Midichlorians may not be TEH FORCE, but they ARE stupid. We can all agree on that, no?
Also, from another board, in teh interwebs far far away:
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You know, it's funny -- the Jedi just losing interest halfway through AOTC in where the clone army came from is probably the biggest plot hole in any of the PT movies, yet it happens in the only prequel film I actually like. Just goes to show that all this nitpicking (on both sides) is just long-winded justification for how we already feel.
Yup, that's for sure. Doubly stupid when the microscopic organisms knocked up Anakin's mom.
That's why you gotta use those paper toilet seats in the public restroooms.Almost everything of import or interest happened off-screen. Especially Anakin and Obi-Wan's friendship. I didn't exactly feel heart-wrenched in that final fight because they never seemed like "brothers" or like friends who loved each other.
I thought the creation/implementation of the Clone Army was really stupid enough not to need further discussion, and it's hard to have a discussion about it when I don't think anyone is going to disagree on just how jaw-droppingly stupid it is.
I'm bored...
Could you people shift your nitpicking focus on stuff like space-Jesus, the Jedi idiotically allowing themselves to be Palpatine's puppets (WTF, a clone army? Who ordered it? - Jedi master Syfo-Dyas! - That mothafucka been dead for 10 years, man! Something fishy here... Meh, whatever, lets take the order kick some separatist ass!)...
You know, the important stuff?
Midichlorians may not be TEH FORCE, but they ARE stupid. We can all agree on that, no?
Well, I brought up the MC issue because that was the first thing on Seth's list of why Plinkett was a liar. I was trying to point out that it wasn't an lie but rather his observation. The MC were presented with ample ambiguity that the audience could interpreted MC as they saw fit.
Oh, and the Order spends lavishly on Art Deco furniture for the Temple, but Anakin's mother? Eh, screw her.
But that was by design. You see, Jedi Knights are not supposed to have any emotional ties with the rest of the world. They are, however, okay to love each other, as long as it a brother kind of love.
Oh, and never mind that even a blind man can see this one particular Jedi has a hard-on for a particular woman. Send that Jedi and that woman to spend some quality time alone on a far away planet that reminds you of Garden of Eden. Surely nothing will ever go wrong there.
I don't buy it. Art Deco is a manifestation of the will of the Force -- conjured by the midi-chlorians, no less -- therefore it didn't cost a single Republic credit.Oh, and the Order spends lavishly on Art Deco furniture for the Temple, but Anakin's mother? Eh, screw her.
On the other hand, compassion for others is supposed to be a Jedi tenet ... why not compassion for the slaves of Tatooine? What are the Jedi? A radio station presiding over a "freedom contest"? Y'know, the kind where station employees and their families aren't eligible?
Makes no sense to me.
Apparently, neither are elected officials, according to Padme's protests of '...but... but... i'm a senator!'
I don't buy it. Art Deco is a manifestation of the will of the Force -- conjured by the midi-chlorians, no less -- therefore it didn't cost a single Republic credit.Oh, and the Order spends lavishly on Art Deco furniture for the Temple, but Anakin's mother? Eh, screw her.
On the other hand, compassion for others is supposed to be a Jedi tenet ... why not compassion for the slaves of Tatooine? What are the Jedi? A radio station presiding over a "freedom contest"? Y'know, the kind where station employees and their families aren't eligible?
Makes no sense to me.
Why only free his mother? Why not free all slaves?
^ That was, like, totally my point.
They ignore the plight of the slaves on Tatooine ... for what possible reason? That Anakin's mother is one of them? And freeing them all (including his mother) might look like favoritism? Like I said ... makes no sense.
They ignore the plight of the slaves on Tatooine ... for what possible reason? That Anakin's mother is one of them? And freeing them all (including his mother) might look like favoritism? Like I said ... makes no sense.
Trying to free them all would probably throw the galaxy into a huge war. And that's not their decision to make.
So what is their decision to make? Hmmm? They've got this huge CODE ... they claim to be peacekeepers of the galaxy ... and yet ... they have a laissez-faire philosophy? It's obvious that the Jedi of TPM/AOTC are a bloated, stagnant bureaucracy, more concerned about their internal affairs than that of the galaxy.
It's the Senate's decision, not theirs. Don't know what the Jedi Order exactly is in the Republic. They are Rockstar Vatican Assassins, but still can't do what they want. They are just some religious order who carry weapons (but then again, that might just be the weapons laws in the Republic allowing everyone to carry weapons). They are not official diplomats, but the government still can ask them to mediate disputes. They are just some private institution. They can't suddenly go around, free slaves and cause a war with other empires and organizations.
Riiiight ... which specifically underlines the fact that they were a bloated, stagnant bureaucracy ... incapable of doing anything that, you know, actually makes sense. Like freeing the slaves on Tatooine. Or realizing that Qui-Gon's view of the Force was healthier than traditional Jedi dogma ... or recognizing the fact that the Chancellor was really a Sith Lord.
Uh-huh. A whole exclusive organization ... with ties to the most significant events of the galaxy past and present. Dogmatically adhering to a Code. Unwilling to accept any opposing viewpoints (i.e. Qui-Gon). With plenty of disposable members to lose in the open salvo of a war. Compassion is a key tenet ... but it's not their "job" to free people from bondage. Yep. Definitely not bloated. Or stagnant. Or in need of any reformation whatsoever. Surely, the Jedi of TPM are the epitome of goodness and compassion and understanding and acceptance.
You might not be able to call the Jedi "bloated" but I sure as Mustafar can.
You might not be able to call the Jedi "bloated" but I sure as Mustafar can.
^Concur. There was actually some good hay to be made of that in the films, but that interesting subtext was always at war with the explicit text telling you how great the Jedi were--or at least how evil their enemies were.
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