Please God, No! (Transformers 2 Rumor) (SPOILER!)

[captcalhoun]

Hasbro's confirmed the Megatron-tank as legit.

they've also confirmed, Sideswipe is the new Corvette, Ravage is appearing and so is the combined Constructicons.

Orci apparently confirms on TFW2005 that Jetfire appears and combines with Prime...

 

[John Picard]

Orci apparently confirms on TFW2005 that Jetfire appears and combines with Prime...

 

[Captain Craig]

Orci apparently confirms on TFW2005 that Jetfire appears and combines with Prime...

This movie is going to cost $200m+

 

[Trekker4747]

As long as it is as good as the first Transformers movie I will be happy.

Wow, don't set the bar too high there, ace.

 

[Aragorn]

No, I wouldn't. There are somethings that are iconic in comic books and continuities. I can understand why Bumblebee wasn't a VW but they still should have had him as a small car.

Would you like it if they changed Superman's origin? Or costume around? Or how about Batman's origin? Let's say his parents weren't killed by a thief? Or let's say Wolverine wasn't a Canadian...How would you deal with those changes?

So which way are you going here? You have no problems turning a character that's multiple robots combined into a single tank, yet in another thread you bitch about movies not following the continuity of comic books?

 

[exodus]

There's change for improvement, change for budgetary reasons and change for the sake of change. If Wheeljack, Jetfire, Bumblebee and Ironhide suddenly became a combiner and formed a giant robot named Wheelie, you'd be cheering all over that?

No, I wouldn't. There are somethings that are iconic in comic books and continuities. I can understand why Bumblebee wasn't a VW but they still should have had him as a small car.

Would you like it if they changed Superman's origin? Or costume around? Or how about Batman's origin? Let's say his parents weren't killed by a thief? Or let's say Wolverine wasn't a Canadian...How would you deal with those changes?

I for one wouldn't care too much because I understand the industry is a business and there are certain changes that must be made in films due to budget. It also has to be a story the mass public can relate too in a short period of time. Even books made into movies get altered for this reason.

When you understand how a studio & the film making business works, you might come to understand how all this complaining is silly.

No movie is just made for it's fan audience, they're made for the mass pubilc all over the world to relate too.

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

There's change for improvement, change for budgetary reasons and change for the sake of change. If Wheeljack, Jetfire, Bumblebee and Ironhide suddenly became a combiner and formed a giant robot named Wheelie, you'd be cheering all over that?

No, I wouldn't. There are somethings that are iconic in comic books and continuities. I can understand why Bumblebee wasn't a VW but they still should have had him as a small car.

Would you like it if they changed Superman's origin? Or costume around? Or how about Batman's origin? Let's say his parents weren't killed by a thief? Or let's say Wolverine wasn't a Canadian...How would you deal with those changes?

I for one wouldn't care too much because I understand the industry is a business and there are certain changes that must be made in films due to budget. It also has to be a story the mass public can relate too in a short period of time. Even books made into movies get altered for this reason.

When you understand how a studio & the film making business works, you might come to understand how all this complaining is silly.

No movie is just made for it's fan audience, they're made for the mass pubilc all over the world to relate too.

While the movies are made for mass public, they still try to please the 'fans' by keeping true to the roots.

I think that what they did to Transformers was bad because well it's robots fighting each other! How the hell can you move away from that?

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

No, I wouldn't. There are somethings that are iconic in comic books and continuities. I can understand why Bumblebee wasn't a VW but they still should have had him as a small car.

Would you like it if they changed Superman's origin? Or costume around? Or how about Batman's origin? Let's say his parents weren't killed by a thief? Or let's say Wolverine wasn't a Canadian...How would you deal with those changes?

So which way are you going here? You have no problems turning a character that's multiple robots combined into a single tank, yet in another thread you bitch about movies not following the continuity of comic books?

I said I wouldn't be happy if they did that. It's more of a Beast Wars thing anyways.

 

[Bishbot]

When you understand how a studio & the film making business works, you might come to understand how all this complaining is silly.

No movie is just made for it's fan audience, they're made for the mass pubilc all over the world to relate too.

That's kind of arrogant. We all of us understand that a movie has to make money, and that the audience have to be able to understand it, and, in fact, that changes to an original mythos usually have to be made to facilitate this. That doesn't change the fact that that sometimes things get changed because a film-maker wants to rewrite the story he has been given, even when its unnecessary.

Now, I'm an experienced Transformers fan, used to following three or four different continuities at a time, so I couldn't give a crap if the movie continuity stuck close to G1 or not (in fact, which damn G1 should it stick close to? There have been at least four that I can think of). All I care about is that it feels like Transformers and even Transformers, with its immensely mutable mythos, has certain basic rules that should not be broken, and don't need to be, for any version in any media.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I think it's basically a given that the key version of Transformers is the 80s cartoon, the major elements of which (especially the origin story) are shared with the Marvel comic book. Since this was an origin movie, I was expecting it to share more commonalities with both. I'm not sure why they changed certain things...but could live with most of the changes. Mostly, it was the utter brainlessness and lack of character development/plot cohesion that got me. It all could have been done so much better.

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Mostly, it was the utter brainlessness and lack of character development/plot cohesion that got me. It all could have been done so much better.

Exactly and the puppet reason of, well it's a toy commercial, what do you expect? Uh, Transformers were a LOT deeper than that. They actually had personalities and had motives. They had a lot of character development.

 

[Sephiroth]

Spoiler: The Fallen

heres an early pic of the Fallen

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Spoiler: The Fallen

heres an early pic of the Fallen

Oh I love it, Seph. That's great.

 

[Jono]

^ Excellent. IF Transformers 1 missed anything it was the odd musical number, now with that Fallen I believe they can correct this grievous mistake.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Transformers 1 missed anything it was the odd musical number

Suddenly had visions of Transformers: The Musical.

 

[Aragorn]

When Fallen makes his on-screen debut, the song will be Tom Petty's "Freefalling."

 

[Sephiroth]

When Fallen makes his on-screen debut, the song will be Tom Petty's "Freefalling."

will he have the touch? will he have the power?

 

[Sephiroth]

Spoiler: The Fallen

heres an early pic of the Fallen

Oh I love it, Seph. That's great.

the only problem is that his alternate form is a fire hydrant

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Spoiler: The Fallen

heres an early pic of the Fallen

Oh I love it, Seph. That's great.

the only problem is that his alternate form is a fire hydrant

His nemesis? The dog next door!

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

^ Excellent. IF Transformers 1 missed anything it was the odd musical number, now with that Fallen I believe they can correct this grievous mistake.

Yes! NEED MORE MUSICALS! Everything is solved with a musical!