Indeed. There's a lot of Star Trek I don't like. It didn't some how stop being Trek because I don't like it. That pretty a pretty amazing super power if I could do that!
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I guess I'm lucky, in that I've found something to enjoy in pretty much all of it.
There are a couple of Bond films I find less interesting than paint drying but in no way would I ever say they're not "real" James Bond movies. Selective decanonization of franchises is one of fandom's most annoying pedantic tendencies and something to be avoided.
so what would happen if, in a not so distant future a major Chinese media cooperation decides to buy the Star Trek franchise and transforms it into one big CCP propaganda show? Technically it would still be „Star Trek“. The differentiation of „real Star Trek“ and „false Star Trek“ however would be a valid anchor point for discourse.
What i am saying is; don’t get mad if people got their very own definitions of real Star Trek. Within a discussion, this definition shouldn’t be the prerogative of the franchise’s license holders.
First of all, I'm not mad.
Second, people can say whatever they want, even when they are factually wrong.
And yes, it is absolutely the prerogative of the license holder to declare what is "Real Star Trek".
That's the only definition that matters, as they set Star Trek, not the fans. Fans can support it by watching it but there that's the beginning and end of the relationship.
It's a business, first and foremost. Now, if you want to talk about what Trek means to you and what you think Trek should mean I would welcome it. But statements like "actual Trek" or "real Trek" are nonstarters because that's simply a personal preference with an arbitrary distinction.
It's a business, first and foremost. Now, if you want to talk about what Trek means to you and what you think Trek should mean I would welcome it. But statements like "actual Trek" or "real Trek" are nonstarters because that's simply a personal preference with an arbitrary distinction.
I think that is the very thing people do, when they use the term „Real Star Trek“ or „True Star Trek“ etc. It is just an acronym for one’s desire to explain, which values a Star Trek show should actually cherish…
They get to decide if it's REAL Star Trek.
We get to decide if it's GOOD Star Trek.
That's how fandom and intellectual properties are supposed to work. The audience doesn't get the monopoly of say.
We get to decide if it's GOOD Star Trek.
That's how fandom and intellectual properties are supposed to work. The audience doesn't get the monopoly of say.
Ooohhh...I like that. Well put.
Which we have no say over, again, and the simple fact is Star Trek is a business, not a religion, a philosophy or a charity. The business relationship determines it, not what it should "actually" be.
Thanks. It's the truth.
They can make anything they want and it's up to us to consume and even like it. That's how businesses work.
They can make anything they want and it's up to us to consume and even like it. That's how businesses work.
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There's that thing again.
Discovery, Lower Decks, Strange New Worlds, Prodigy...all Actual Star Trek.
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
It's not an opinion. It's fact.
Opinion is if you like them or not. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they're not Trek.That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
As long as the current rights holders say they're Star Trek, they're Star Trek.
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
No, it's incontrivertible fact. You can avoid watching any of those and spare yourself the misery of watching Trek you don't like but that doesn't change that LD and DSC and PRO are just as official and just as canon as TOS, TNG and DS9 and one's choice to not like them has absolutely no bearing on that.
I mean, I'm a huge Elton John fan. He recorded a disco album at the end of the '70s I don't listen to and don't own and don't want to listen to or own. That doesn't mean it's not REAL Elton John music.
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