Pike's "woman on the bridge" line
- Thread starter Methuselah Flint
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Their onscreen reactions to one another along with the dialogue make the author's intent quite clear IMO
Yep. That Pike wasn't really serious. I already said that.
In that case, it seems I seriously mis-read the intent of your post back there!
More live action is needed on TrekBBS, I reckon
To get to the idea that he wasn't really serious about it, you have to already be at the idea that it's what they're talking about.In that case, it seems I seriously mis-read the intent of your post back there!
More live action is needed on TrekBBS, I reckon
In that conversation, Pike brought it up, and Boyce efficiently info-dumped what it meant to the audience.
My read: Pike is close to the breaking point, and he's starting to muse about taking a walk on the wild side. The fact that he's vulnerable to the temptations that Vina acts out for him is part of the drama here. They come from his own mind: things he did back in the good old days, forbidden fruit that crosses his mind when he's down in the dumps. The drama is: can Pike be tempted by getting to live out his own fantasies?
Yes -- that.
Goalpost shifts bring a nice breeze.
Naw, keep it in. It shows that Pike was tired and emotionally compromised (thanks to a mission that cost the lives of several of crew), and it occurred a few years in the past (vis-a-vis DSC). It's a character flaw that I hope that was addressed, but one that doesn't need to be addressed on-screen.
This is going to be very interesting come 1966. How progressive am I allowed to be and still be plausibly from 1966?
On the other hand, "different times" and all that notwithstanding, people were still fighting for equality, representation, and respect. So I think I could find the line cringe-worthy.
I'm glad Pike's line isn't in Menagerie. I don't have to worry about it since it's not canon.
On the other hand, "different times" and all that notwithstanding, people were still fighting for equality, representation, and respect. So I think I could find the line cringe-worthy.
I'm glad Pike's line isn't in Menagerie. I don't have to worry about it since it's not canon.
Nope.
Or "I'm going to pretend you didn't just say that."
Alternately, if you want to look at it another way:
"Darn. Am I really that transparent, Phil?"
Alternately, if you want to look at it another way:
"Darn. Am I really that transparent, Phil?"
Come on you can do better than that:
"Once you go green, you'll never come clean."
or
"Once you go green, you'll think slaves are keen."
or my personal favorite
"Once you go green, canon is what's seen on screen."
Somebody made a meme a while back with Vina's picture, and it said "Once you go green, everything else is routine."
Possible.
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