Pike's Wheelchair was Nightmare Fuel

[fireproof78]

He also spends a lot of time on someone else's starship.

Yeah, Pike's chair and his condition were definitely unnerving when we only knew Pike from WNMHGB The Cage and The Menagerie. It takes on a whole other level of tragic now that we're really getting to know Pike thanks to Anson Mount's amazing portrayal. So much more of a likeable character now.

People didn't like Pike before?

Genuine question.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

As performed by Hunter, Pike was considered by some to be overly pessimistic and morose in comparison to the swinging, chipper Captain Kirk.

 

[Farscape One]

People didn't like Pike before?

Genuine question.

I never disliked Pike before Anson Mount took the role. But his story and performance gave a great deal of extra weight added to an already tragic figure.

(As a kid, I saw Pike as heroic because he saved those cadets and it cost him to be handed a fate worse than death: irradiated badly and crippled to the point of not being really alive. Mount's performance and seeing that he KNEW his fate long before just makes it even more heroic on his part.)

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

People didn't like Pike before?

Genuine question.

As Rowdy said below, the little we saw of Hunter's portrayal didn't give us much to go on. Kinda dour to me.

As performed by Hunter, Pike was considered by some to be overly pessimistic and morose in comparison to the swinging, chipper Captain Kirk.

 

[fireproof78]

As performed by Hunter, Pike was considered by some to be overly pessimistic and morose in comparison to the swinging, chipper Captain Kirk.

That wasn't the question.

I always liked Pike. But, maybe I'm weird like that because Pike resonated at an weird time in my life.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As performed by Hunter, Pike was considered by some to be overly pessimistic and morose in comparison to the swinging, chipper Captain Kirk.

Caught him on a bad day. Early season one Kirk had a few of those.

 

[Ronald Held]

I had no problem with Jeffrey Hunter's Pike. A bad mission, and he suffered for it.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

That wasn't the question.

No, it was a speculative answer why some may not have enjoyed or liked Pike's character, tying in with Hunter's performance. I'm not part of the some. But some apparently felt that way at the time, even before Kirk surfaced.

 

[fireproof78]

No, it was a speculative answer why some may not have enjoyed or liked Pike's character, tying in with Hunter's performance. I'm not part of the some. But some apparently felt that way at the time, even before Kirk surfaced.

The audience couldn't feel that way because they had not seen it.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

The audience couldn't feel that way because they had not seen it.

But the executives did, and many thought the story---and perhaps Pike as well----was much to cerebral, at least in comparison to other popular action shows.

 

[fireproof78]

But the executives did, and many thought the story---and perhaps Pike as well----was much to cerebral, at least in comparison to other popular action shows.

Too cerebral meant people couldn't connect with the characters. Which is a separate question to liking a character.

 

[Nerys Myk]

But the executives did, and many thought the story---and perhaps Pike as well----was much to cerebral, at least in comparison to other popular action shows.

Pretty sure "cerebral" was actually code for "sexy". "The Cage" was not more cerebral than most shows on the air at the time, including the action adventure ones.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Too cerebral meant people couldn't connect with the characters. Which is a separate question to liking a character.

Some people did not like Pike. I did. You did.

 

[serdogthehound]

I had no problem with Jeffrey Hunter's Pike. A bad mission, and he suffered for it.

exactly it was Pike at his low. We saw this a few times another exsmaple is Matt Decker

 

[Nerys Myk]

exactly it was Pike at his low. We saw this a few times another exsmaple is Matt Decker

Even Kirk. "Obsession" comes to mind.

 

[johnnybear]

Thing is the Hunter Pike and the Mount Pike aren't the same man. One is the TOS reality/universe and the other belongs to the Disco continuum.
JB

 

[SteveJRogers]

Bear in mind that the show made every effort to keep Hunter. So we may have gotten a little more of a ham fisted gunslinger action star at different points.

It wasn’t until it was clear he wouldn’t return that we got The Shat.

 

[SteveJRogers]

I recommend 'el Camino' which was about Jesse Pinkman. We can only wish Star Trek in any era was as well written, acted and filmed as BCS, BB, P & EC were.

Sometimes I fantasize about SNW being as good with continuity as Better Call Saul was.* I don't think it's an overstatement to say that BCS was the best prequel ever. As far as I can remember, EVERYTHING lined up with what Breaking Bad established.

*Probably not a fair comparison, since BCS was made by the same people right after BB ended, and SNW was produced by a completely different creative team decades after the fact, but still... It would've been cool if everything in SNW lined up that perfectly with TOS.

Yup. But it is pretty crazy how much they got from throw away lines and references on BB;

“McGill”
“Lalo” and “Ignacio”
“I convinced her that I was Kevin Costner”
“This places needs a Danny” and so on

 

[Nerys Myk]

Thing is the Hunter Pike and the Mount Pike aren't the same man. One is the TOS reality/universe and the other belongs to the Disco continuum.
JB

Nope.

 

[XCV330]

Greenwood's take on Pike is an interesting one, and I don't think there would have been as much interest in bringing Pike back for DISCO if it hadn't been for that. Greenwood's PIke has the seriousness of Hunter without the humor and melancholy of Mount's take. Greenwood's Pike is as doomed as the Prime Timeline version, but doesn't know it. His experiences as a captain were obviously different. NCC-1701 is built much later. and so he had a very different career.