Pike's Wheelchair was Nightmare Fuel

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I said on another thread that the other good thing about ATCSL is that, counter to the "humanity has moved past grieving" spiel, the children's carefree behavior following the death of their parents is presented as abnormal and disturbing.

 

[fireproof78]

Sometimes I fantasize about SNW being as good with continuity as Better Call Saul was.* I don't think it's an overstatement to say that BCS was the best prequel ever. As far as I can remember, EVERYTHING lined up with what Breaking Bad established.

*Probably not a fair comparison, since BCS was made by the same people right after BB ended, and SNW was produced by a completely different creative team decades after the fact, but still... It would've been cool if everything in SNW lined up that perfectly with TOS.

Even TOS doesn't line up with TOS.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

I was at The Tech Museum, in San Jose, this morning. They have a set of five small video carrels in an open area on the upper floor, featuring stories about technologies (usually very recent) to make the world a better place. As I recall, last year or the year before, one of them featured a seaweed cattle feed additive that reduces methane emissions.
But more to the point, they currently have a couple of them set aside for direct neural interfaces. One involves implants, and the other is a non-invasive headset with electrodes and a heads-up display, from an outfit called "Cognixion." When I saw it, I immediately thought of this discussion.

But I seem to recall either an episode or a book that went into some detail on just how badly ruined Pike's body and nervous system was, from the delta radiation.

And at any rate, I wouldn't call it nightmare fuel in the same sense as salt vampires and eye-screams are nightmare fuel.

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I've always considered Pike in that chair and the faceless woman in "CHARLIE X" as the two most terrifying things TOS ever did.

Same. The faceless woman was scarier than any Universal monster.

I thought the aged Uhura sequence in "And the Children Shall Lead" pretty unsettling.

That didn't bother me much. Characters turning old unless they were a good screamer was a Trek trope by then.

 

[XCV330]

Honestly if they could Yes/no they should be able to do words without morse code without too much diffculty

I have assumed there is something so damaged in Pike neurologically that while he may be perfectly conscious and cognizant even starfleet technology (presumably including telepathic species less powerflu than Talosians) hasn't been able to access his thoughts beyond simple binary.

 

[serdogthehound]

I have assumed there is something so damaged in Pike neurologically that while he may be perfectly conscious and cognizant even starfleet technology (presumably including telepathic species less powerflu than Talosians) hasn't been able to access his thoughts beyond simple binary.

even a simple scanning interface would do it scans the alphabet think Yes when the letter was there maybe have some comonly used words it a click/noclick

 

[XCV330]

even a simple scanning interface would do it scans the alphabet think Yes when the letter was there maybe have some comonly used words it a click/noclick

but again, he's cognizant enough to somehow make his chair move where it needs to go in the DISCO episode, seemingly. I mean he could use a giant Ouija Board if he had that kind of control so it must be something else

 

[serdogthehound]

but again, he's cognizant enough to somehow make his chair move where it needs to go in the DISCO episode, seemingly. I mean he could use a giant Ouija Board if he had that kind of control so it must be something else

He was able to move it in TOS

 

[Ronald Held]

He allegedly could only move the chair a little forward or backwards. No idea how tiring it is to do that.
If he has that level of neurological damage,how conscious and self aware could be be?

 

[Farscape One]

Never mind the level of pain Pike was enduring daily. We get a glimpse of that with Anson Mount's vision.

It's exactly why I put Pike as a truly heroic captain: he willingly accepted a fate worse than death for the sake of others. It's easier to die for a greater good than to end up like he did for a greater good.

 

[johnnybear]

How did the chair actually keep him alive? What I mean is did he eat or was he fed or did the chair supply the essential vitamins and stuffs that his body needed?
JB

 

[Noname Given]

How did the chair actually keep him alive? What I mean is did he eat or was he fed or did the chair supply the essential vitamins and stuffs that his body needed?
JB

Most likely the latter.

 

[serdogthehound]

Most likely the latter.

Yes they said it had his Life Support

 

[PCz911]

Yeah, I always assumed the chair was like a mobile iron lung or something. All kinds of medical stuff going on inside.

It always reminded me of the Daleks from dr who….

 

[Henoch]

He allegedly could only move the chair a little forward or backwards. No idea how tiring it is to do that.

Yabba-Dabba-Doo!

 

[Set Harth]

How did the chair actually keep him alive? What I mean is did he eat or was he fed or did the chair supply the essential vitamins and stuffs that his body needed?
JB

Brawndo.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

It's what Pikes crave

 

[Ronald Held]

I assume the chair provides intravenous nutrients and removes wastes in a similar fashion. Onifea of his muscles are completely atrophied.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Kirk's such a know it all

He also spends a lot of time on someone else's starship.

Yeah, Pike's chair and his condition were definitely unnerving when we only knew Pike from WNMHGB The Cage and The Menagerie. It takes on a whole other level of tragic now that we're really getting to know Pike thanks to Anson Mount's amazing portrayal. So much more of a likeable character now.

 

[Moopsy]

we only know Pike from WNMHGB and The Menagerie.

I think you mean "The Cage"; Pike wasn't in WNMHGB.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I think you mean "The Cage"; Pike wasn't in WNMHGB.

D'oh! Fixed now.