Pike is [Spoiler]ed?
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The ONE episode I would like to see woven into the cannon framework would be "Yesteryear".
Despite the primitive animation, the story stands up well.
Well, it was the animated series that established that the T. stood for Tiberius, and that's in the new Star Trek movie.
The appearance of something from the animated series in one of the other series/movies makes that thing canonical, by virtue of the fact that it appeared in the live action series or movie. It doesn't make the whole of TAS canonical 'by association'. Anymore than if they happened to do something that had been done in a fanfic it would make the whole fanfic canonical.
The 'T=Tiberius' has been canonical since it was established in The Undiscovered Country.
And no-one has yet been able to provide a source from the Trek top brass stating that TAS is now considered part of the canon, only second or third hand stuff from Wikipedia.
ST-One
Vice Admiral
Well, it was the animated series that established that the T. stood for Tiberius, and that's in the new Star Trek movie.Ah, yes. Wikipedia. The never-ending source of all accuracy.
The appearance of something from the animated series in one of the other series/movies makes that thing canonical, by virtue of the fact that it appeared in the live action series or movie. It doesn't make the whole of TAS canonical 'by association'. Anymore than if they happened to do something that had been done in a fanfic it would make the whole fanfic canonical.
The 'T=Tiberius' has been canonical since it was established in The Undiscovered Country.
And no-one has yet been able to provide a source from the Trek top brass stating that TAS is now considered part of the canon, only second or third hand stuff from Wikipedia.
Well, it was the animated series that established that the T. stood for Tiberius, and that's in the new Star Trek movie.
I consider April and the stuff in "Yesteryear" canon, but everything else in the other TAS episodes is conjectural and up for interpretation until I hear otherwise from the CBS/Paramount bigwigs and the franchise producers.
Robert April (seen below in green) was the first commanding officer of the Enterprise, preceding Pike. According to Wikipedia, "With the release of the Animated Series DVD release, Paramount Studio appears to have changed its stance on the series, and is now calling the animated series part of established canon, including within the pack-in booklet, and DVD extras, and Startrek.com."
What does this have to do with a thread discussing whether Pike gets crippled or not.
Can I ask why these things specifically?
You're right. I strayed off topic a bit. Sorry.Robert April (seen below in green) was the first commanding officer of the Enterprise, preceding Pike. According to Wikipedia, "With the release of the Animated Series DVD release, Paramount Studio appears to have changed its stance on the series, and is now calling the animated series part of established canon, including within the pack-in booklet, and DVD extras, and Startrek.com."
What does this have to do with a thread discussing whether Pike gets crippled or not.
Why would Spock raise any issues? He was the one behind the whole conspiracy in the first place. He didn't want the world to communicate with Pike, because he knew that Pike would then have objected to Spock's plan and probably ruined it. Spock already had far better a fate planned for Pike than the mere ability to express his sentiments through occasional mindmelds with an ugly Vulcan nurse who'd follow him everywhere.
Timo Saloniemi
Well to be fair they're roughly the only things that enhance and support existing Enterprise 1701 history and TOS canon in my view. April is a Roddenberry creation that the Great Bird himself always considered the ship's very first captain, and the "Yesteryear" plot builds on the Guardian of Forever mythology while subsequently filling in major holes in Spock's family background.
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Re: Pike is Crippled?
The mind meld instructions were delivered on a Tuesday via shuttlecraft, but too late for their respective inclusion in The Menagerie and The Naked Time.
The mind meld instructions were delivered on a Tuesday via shuttlecraft, but too late for their respective inclusion in The Menagerie and The Naked Time.
I always find this comment funny. I rarely find anything on Wikipedia that I don't find to be almost 100% correct. The beauty of Wikipedia is the checks and balances. Someone posts something incorrect, some fanatic makes sure it's set straight again. Someone else corrects his fanatic-ness with over the top research.
Sorry, off topic.
I always find this comment funny. I rarely find anything on Wikipedia that I don't find to be almost 100% correct. The beauty of Wikipedia is the checks and balances. Someone posts something incorrect, some fanatic makes sure it's set straight again. Someone else corrects his fanatic-ness with over the top research.
Sorry, off topic.
I find errors all the time in newspapers, news magazines, websites of all kinds, etc. But I've only ever caught Wikipedia in one or two errors. Methinks waaaay too much is made of its supposed "unreliability".
However, it remains to be true what Gep implied: Wikipedia is hardly a scientific source and it should not be treated as such.Ah, yes. Wikipedia. The never-ending source of all accuracy.
I always find this comment funny. I rarely find anything on Wikipedia that I don't find to be almost 100% correct. The beauty of Wikipedia is the checks and balances. Someone posts something incorrect, some fanatic makes sure it's set straight again. Someone else corrects his fanatic-ness with over the top research.
Sorry, off topic.
I find errors all the time in newspapers, news magazines, websites of all kinds, etc. But I've only ever caught Wikipedia in one or two errors. Methinks waaaay too much is made of its supposed "unreliability".
