Picard: Status of the Enterprise?

[Lord Garth]

That would be deeply boring.

True, but that's why it's not Star Trek: Riker.

He's the guy next door with the beard, the beer belly (not so much anymore), the wife, and the kid. "Hey! Wanna come over for a BBQ?" That's how I see him. Mr. Ordinary, Normal.

Then we've got Picard. "I led the greatest armada, and then... the unimaginable. I've really tried to make the vineyard feel like home! I really tried! And no one in Starfleet will listen to me! Will, we need to save the Universe, there's a woman who's in serious danger, and..."

Riker cuts him off. "Budweiser or Miller Lite?" Picard angrily glares at him and asks, "Number One, have you listened to a single thing I've said?"

Troi tells Picard, "I sense uneasiness. Why don't you have a beer? We have nachos with dip! I'll put the game on inside."

Picard storms off. "DAMMIT!!!!"

 

[Tuskin38]

It will be like Wilson in Home Improvement, but instead of only seeing his eyes, all you see is Riker's beard.

 

[fireproof78]

He's the guy next door with the beard, the beer belly (not so much anymore), the wife, and the kid. "Hey! Wanna come over for a BBQ?" That's how I see him. Mr. Ordinary, Normal.

I know its not really a "Star Trek" show but there is a certain level of appeal to a show set in the everyday humdrum of Federation life. Yes, I know, people go to Star Trek for action/adventure, and I like that as well. But, it really doesn't communicate the feel of an optimistic future if we just see them getting in to wacky adventures.

At least to my mind...

 

[DaveyNY]

I know its not really a "Star Trek" show but there is a certain level of appeal to a show set in the everyday humdrum of Federation life. Yes, I know, people go to Star Trek for action/adventure, and I like that as well. But, it really doesn't communicate the feel of an optimistic future if we just see them getting in to wacky adventures.

At least to my mind...

I think, that is kinda-sorta what we are going to get with the animated "Lower Decks" show.

 

[Crewman6]

True, but that's why it's not Star Trek: Riker.

He's the guy next door with the beard, the beer belly (not so much anymore), the wife, and the kid. "Hey! Wanna come over for a BBQ?" That's how I see him. Mr. Ordinary, Normal.

Then we've got Picard. "I led the greatest armada, and then... the unimaginable. I've really tried to make vineyard feel like home! I really tried! And no one in Starfleet will listen to me! Will, we need to save the Universe, there's a woman who's in serious danger, and..."

Riker cuts him off. "Budweiser or Miller Lite?" Picard angrily glares at him and asks, "Number One, have you listened to a single thing I've said?"

Troi tells Picard, "I sense uneasiness. Why don't you have a beer? We have nachos with dip! I'll put the game on inside."

Picard storms off. "DAMMIT!!!!"

Dude, you're going to get in trouble for violating your NDA and posting a page from the script.

Let's try to keep this thread spoiler-free from now on?

 

[Lord Garth]

Dude, you're going to get in trouble for violating your NDA and posting a page from the script.

Let's try to keep this thread spoiler-free from now on?

You don't even want me to let you know what the score is on the game?

 

[Amasov]

Probably mentioned somewhere in this thread, but, according to Star Trek Countdown, the comic that sets up the events of Star Trek (2009), the Enterprise-E was still in service and under Data's command at the time of Romulus' destruction. Kurtzman co-wrote this comic, and given that they canonized Number One's first name as Una (taken from one of the novels), I wouldn't be surprised if they canonized elements of this story in setting up Picard. Though given what we've seen in the trailer so far, I'm going out on a limb and saying Data isn't commanding her.

 

[Dukhat]

I doubt the producers of STP (Kurtzman included) are going to worry about being consistent with a ten year old tie-in comic book.

 

[DaveyNY]

But...
We probably will see bits and pieces of it pop up in the show.

 

[Amasov]

I doubt the producers of STP (Kurtzman included) are going to worry about being consistent with a ten year old tie-in comic book.

That's not what I mean. What I mean is they may canonize parts of it, but, I hardly think they are going to worry if it's consistent.

But...
We probably will see bits and pieces of it pop up in the show.

Honestly the show seems to be full on aftermath of what we saw both in the comic and the 24th century perspective of 2009.

 

[Dukhat]

That's not what I mean. What I mean is they may canonize parts of it, but, I hardly think they are going to worry if it's consistent.

Picking and choosing things from the comic and incorporating them into the show is fine. Like, for example, if we see the 3D displays on a Starfleet vessel like how they’re depicted in the comic. However, that does not make the comic itself canon.

 

[Crewman6]

You don't even want me to let you know what the score is on the game?

Parrises Squares? Ugh, no thanks.

 

[Amasov]

Picking and choosing things from the comic and incorporating them into the show is fine. Like, for example, if we see the 3D displays on a Starfleet vessel like how they’re depicted in the comic. However, that does not make the comic itself canon.

Not sure if it's a Starfleet vessel, but...

But, yes, you're quite correct.

 

[DaveyNY]

Not sure if it's a Starfleet vessel, but...

But, yes, you're quite correct.

If what we have heard so far from assorted sources is correct, then I believe that is possibly a Freighter ship called La Sirena.
Definitely not a Star Fleet ship.

 

[Timo]

....Holo-HUDs may be compatible with the comics, but they're also a nod towards the onscreen mention of such in DS9 "Visitor". And it matters little whether the comics or PIC got their inspiration from DS9, or all of them separately considered this an obvious future thing to have. What we have here is what we always expected to have.

The only downside is that we also have it in DSC, where it's not a nod to onscreen pseudohistory, but rather the opposite.

I wonder what makes a two-level set without partitioning walls (or anything else interesting) good for photography. DSC got mileage out of the S31 set being so jarringly different. But it doesn't really cater for interesting angles - the upper level is always shot from the upper level, say. And the drama calls for walls and doors anyway, so the most important part of that set in DSC is the separate room at the back! Okay, so La Sirena may double as the Romulan gulag aboard the Borg Cube (?), but that's not much of an excuse to build those catwalks. Are folks going to fall down a lot on the Sirena, perhaps? Somehow, I don't see Stewart going for Sgt Snorkel type cliffhanger stunts...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[JD]

Which sucks. Having both Riker and Picard retired is lame and too samey-same. No real friction there. I much prefer to see Riker as the crusty old "All Good Things" admiral.

I don't see why this a problem, by the time we get to Picard, it'll have been 42 years since he graduated from the Academy, and he'll be 64. Obviously we've seen people a lot older and who have been in Starfleet a lot longer, but not everyone is going to want to spend their entire lives running around the galaxy getting shot at, or cloned, or possessed by evil aliens.
Riker is also going to be a fairly minor part of the show, so it's not like we're going to be seeing him sitting around the house in his underwear every episode or something.

Not sure if it's a Starfleet vessel, but...

But, yes, you're quite correct.

The characters are not Starfleet, so the ship probably won't be either.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Starfleet uniforms are also based on those in the Countdown comic.

But modern Trek picks and chooses little bits from tie-ins to include or reference. From Talos IV co-ordinates being from a 1980's FASA sourcebook, the USS Discovery being based on an unused Enterprise design from the 1970's, Kronos co-ordinates in Into Darkness being from Star Trek Online, or the Big Bad of Disco S2 being plucked from the Trek novelverse.

 

[Amasov]

I don't see why this a problem, by the time we get to Picard, it'll have been 42 years since he graduated from the Academy, and he'll be 64. Obviously we've seen people a lot older and who have been in Starfleet a lot longer, but not everyone is going to want to spend their entire lives running around the galaxy getting shot at, or cloned, or possessed by evil aliens.
Riker is also going to be a fairly minor part of the show, so it's not like we're going to be seeing him sitting around the house in his underwear every episode or something.

The characters are not Starfleet, so the ship probably won't be either.

It does, however, remind me of Discovery’s engineering lab.

 

[Jerikka Dawn]

So, who do you think would be Captain of the Enterprise (E-F... whoever) if they do indeed show it??

Captain Wesley Crusher.

It's a sign of pretty terrible writing when 50% of your audience literally knows the in-universe "tech" solution and your characters don't.

Like in DS9 "Visionary", the instant Dax said there was possibly a singularity nearby, I immediately thought "There's a cloaked warbird." Took them the rest of the episode to figure it out.

Except the big reveal, it’s Tom Riker!!

:: peels off sideburns ::

 

[Gabriel]

I would like to think it is either active or retired and next to the nx-01 (and possibly A and B)