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Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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You said we see the exterior of one Starfleet ship that we will be happy with. Can you pleeeeease tell us what ship it is? Another spoiler on here said there really were not any ships, though. Is this quite a fleeting appearance?
 
Blooded said:
Well, I’m currently sat on a train home, and won’t get through my front door for about 3 more hours. Was it worth it, for one episode of Star Trek?

YES!

I’ve decided that, quite frankly, I don’t want to ruin this for people. So, I’m not going to go into deep detail, especially as we were asked not to post spoilers or reviews online until 6pm next Thursday, so I’ll feel a bit guilty if I go spoiler mad. Enough people are putting all the information out there, so I don’t really need to!

With that said, if you want to be kept completely in the dark, don’t read any more of this post...

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You’ve been warned.

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- This is a fantastic hour of television. After about 20 minutes, I knew I’d just seen the best opening 20 minutes of a Star Trek series, ever.

- Whilst this show is very clearly a 10-part single story, rather than a 10 episode season (so to speak), I feel that this hour of TV worked absolutely perfectly on its own, too.

- We see the exterior of only one Starfleet starship in this episode, and I doubt there’s a single Trekkie on the planet who won’t be happy with it.

- We do see models of three previously established Starfleet vessels. Can confirm that there has been no redesign of them.

- People who are used to Picard being the way he used to be, are going to be in for a shock. He’s an old man here, and it’s played that way, too. It becomes a particular issue during an action sequence in this episode.

- For all the social media shitstorm that has erupted over Patrick Stewart’s comments about the political nature of things this show is tackling, there is only one scene where the dialogue is clearly being very referential to issues in our own world today. And you know what? It’s one of the best dialogue driven scenes I’ve seen in Star Trek, and is Star Trek to its absolute core. It’s some of Stewart’s best work in Trek too, I think, and reminds me of how he floored me with his acting in the FC scene where he broke his “little ship.”

- That same scene is almost tragic, seeing how Picard’s now perceived by the wider world.

- Visually, I felt they did a good job of making this feel like it takes place about 150 years after Discovery. For as modern as Discovery’s tech can look, the tech in Picard felt like it was even fancier.

- Holograms feel different here. Works great.

- The fate of B4 is rather sad, and takes away that hope from the end of NEM.

- Very few of the main cast are in this episode, which is clear immediately from the opening credits cast list.

- Speaking of the opening credits, they’re visually stunning. Very similar to Discovery’s, in the sense of lots of imagery being created before our eyes, etc. Much like how Discovery’s music ends with the TOS bit, Picard’s ends with a few notes from the TNG music - works much better than Discovery’s, for me. The main theme for this show is great, can’t wait to listen to it properly.

- the TNG era Klingon appearance is still canon.

- Some brilliant one liners in this that Trek fans will laugh out loud at.

- I loved how Earth looked and felt in this. Dahj’s first scene, in particular, looked great.

- Data’s scenes are brilliant. They’re almost a completely different vibe to everything else going on in the episode, and I think that makes them stand out a bit more.

- The death toll of the attack on Mars is MUCH greater than the 3000 shown on screens in Children of Mars. Throw in the impact it had on other things going on in the galaxy, and you could argue it was in the millions/billions. This attack isn’t just a historical event - a few lines of dialogue leave me feeling that it’s going to become a significant plot point as this season develops.

- Isa Briones is now currently my favourite thing about this new era of Star Trek.

- There was a trailer still the end (a “this season on Picard” deal) that contained a LOT of new footage I hadn’t seen. The show looks great.



Honestly, I loved it. I knew I would, anyway, but this still blew me away. The opening sequence was jaw dropping and not at ALL how I thought the show would open, and everything in this episode felt like a love letter to Trek and TNG in particular.

People will have different opinions, of course. But I loved it, my father loved it (took him, as my partner couldn’t make it - no babysitter for us!), and everyone around us was using the word “excellent.”

Big shoutout to Amazon, too. This whole evening was superb, from top to bottom.
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Thanks, Blooded, for the superb review
 
BillJ said:
For me, her issues have nothing to do with Data, and everything to do with Pike and his wheelchair down the road.
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Why? Airiam was in a shuttle crash, so most likely piercing damage, blunt force trauma, and likely heavy burns. That might be fixable with cybernetics to the degree we see if enough of her was intact to be hooked up to or replaced with implants.

Pike was victim to heavy radiation damage, destroying, damaging, and affecting every single cell in his body. There might not have been enough unaffected material left of him to properly interact with cybernetic implants.
 
serabine said:
Why? Airiam was in a shuttle crash, so most likely piercing damage, blunt force trauma, and likely heavy burns. That might be fixable with cybernetics to the degree we see if enough of her was intact to be hooked up to or replaced with implants.

Pike was victim to heavy radiation damage, destroying, damaging, and affecting every single cell in his body. There might not have been enough unaffected material left of him to properly interact with cybernetic implants.
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Exactly the post/point I was going to make. :bolian:
 
eschaton said:
There's a fair amount of other spoilers in there.
Like an entire episode later on dedicated to Riker/Troi, Data will appear later on past the first episode, and those three are the only TNG main characters we'll get to see.
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All that was already publicly known anyway.
 
eschaton said:
There's a fair amount of other spoilers in there.
Like an entire episode later on dedicated to Riker/Troi, Data will appear later on past the first episode, and those three are the only TNG main characters we'll get to see.
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I do hope that Patrick Stewart is either

A) holding his cards very close to his chest and we WILL see Beverly at some point this year

or

B) The writers are already working on a Beverly storyline for season 2
 
Crewman6 said:
Yes and this is a BIG spoiler, so proceed at your own risk....

Picard persuaded the UFP/Starfleet to mount a massive evacuation with 10,000 ships. It was supposed to rescue 900 million Romulans. The rescue fleet was being built at Utopia Planitia.

After the synth attack wrecked the in-progress fleet, Starfleet abandoned their rescue plans. Picard threatened to resign unless they changed their minds. They didn't. Picard resigned.

The rescue fleet....never happened.

It's not clear with the Romulan casualty numbers were or what their reaction was or what the political state even is between Romulus and the UFP.

Picard's Romulan friends suggest the Tal Shiar was involved in the attack, but Picard doesn't believe they would have sabotaged their own rescue.
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Is there an explanation for why the Romulans couldn't save themselves? I mean it is not like they are primitives and the nova was super sudden. They have tons of ships themselves and could build more. Why didn't they evacuate their homeworld? Did the Romulans really put the lives of at least 1 billion people solely into the hands of the Federation?

What about other advanced races by the way? If for some reasons Romulans were totally unable to help themselves, did they ask for help from other races after the Federation didn't want to help them anymore? The Klingons, Orions, Ferengi, Gorn, etc.? Is there any mention about this?
 
Noname Given said:
Well, he does need to wait another month for NEW (to him) episodes. ;)
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The thought had occurred.... ;)

And while that's admittedly a little frustrating, I also wasn't super hooked on the show thus far.

Oddly, the cure for being desperately eager to watch the show was to...actually watch the show.

;)
 
Blooded said:
Right, given I teased that and it’s been picked up on, I don’t want to be a dick by continuously refusing to answer! So, I’ll pop it in a spoiler code below.

The only Starfleet vessel that you see, in space, is:

The 1701-D
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Flashback? Dream sequence?
 
Jayson1 said:
I've been reading to many spoilers. I didn't want to but I am weak and gave in. Anybody else having this problem?
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Probably virtually everyone on this thread. Haha. But yeah, I'm in the same boat. To be honest, everything I've read so far has only made me more excited for the show. The backstory seems rich and complex, and well-connected to past canon. It seems that unlike with Discovery, the writers here have made a very serious effort to plan the show out and make it flow. I'm super stoked!
 
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