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Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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Indeed, it was rather disappointing when VOY "Prototype" featured the line establishing Data as not just the only android in Starfleet but also "the only sentient artificial lifeform in our society"*! Given the disinterest Data received in that society, we can but deduce that AIs are uninteresting as a thing, have been exhaustively experimented on during TOS already, and have been found wanting and are no longer being manufactured.

Really, Riker got way more awe than Data, both from the universe around the heroes, and from the audiences...

Timo Saloniemi

* Except of course for the holograms, which Torres in that episode strangely omits. Perhaps she was lying to begin with?

Where do you get the impression that "society" is disinterested in AIs and disinterested in Data?

We don't really see "ordinary" people interacting with Data much at all, but he is certainly treated as special and interesting when those occasions arise. He's kidnapped by Kivas Fajo because he's unique. Dr. Bashir is excited to meet him. Torres, who has never met Data, also knows of him and speaks of him with a degree of reverence. The gal in Evolution, who, granted, was living in a cut off, technologically stagnant society, was also delighted to meet a sentient android. Etc.

Other people have strong reactions to Data, even if they're not positive, like Commander Hobson.

Data is treated with an appropriate amount of interest/fascination/minor celebrity almost all of the time when he encounters new people.
 
The problem with all of the earlier, pre-Data androids is they could be disabled by nothing more than a casual conversation with a slightly-above-average Starfleet captain. Data was the first one which wouldn't immediately melt down when a conflict in his programming was pointed out to him.
 
For me, her issues have nothing to do with Data, and everything to do with Pike and his wheelchair down the road.
The only part of airiam that wasn't synthetic was her brain at least not totaIly. I suppose you could handwave it by saying that the delta radiation was affecting pikes brain as well and eventually it would have eroded synthetic body or not. Personally I think they should have just made airiam an alien.
 
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Currently about 30 minutes from it starting, and sat bang centre in the front row. Hell of an experience so far, can’t wait to feedback to everyone about the show!

Can't wait to hear back from you. Heard there was a SNAFU and only the first episode was shown?
 
Can't wait to hear back from you. Heard there was a SNAFU and only the first episode was shown?

Amazon only scheduled one episode, for whatever reason. I think the Picard crew assumed they were doing the first three, but I know just one was planned for quite a few days, as Amazon sent a schedule of the night out to press people a few days ago.
 
Amazon only scheduled one episode, for whatever reason. I think the Picard crew assumed they were doing the first three, but I know just one was planned for quite a few days, as Amazon sent a schedule of the night out to press people a few days ago.

What did you think? lol
 
Well, I’m currently sat on a train home, and won’t get through my front door for about 3 more hours. Was it worth it, for one episode of Star Trek?

YES!

I’ve decided that, quite frankly, I don’t want to ruin this for people. So, I’m not going to go into deep detail, especially as we were asked not to post spoilers or reviews online until 6pm next Thursday, so I’ll feel a bit guilty if I go spoiler mad. Enough people are putting all the information out there, so I don’t really need to!

With that said, if you want to be kept completely in the dark, don’t read any more of this post...

...

You’ve been warned.

...

- This is a fantastic hour of television. After about 20 minutes, I knew I’d just seen the best opening 20 minutes of a Star Trek series, ever.

- Whilst this show is very clearly a 10-part single story, rather than a 10 episode season (so to speak), I feel that this hour of TV worked absolutely perfectly on its own, too.

- We see the exterior of only one Starfleet starship in this episode, and I doubt there’s a single Trekkie on the planet who won’t be happy with it.

- We do see models of three previously established Starfleet vessels. Can confirm that there has been no redesign of them.

- People who are used to Picard being the way he used to be, are going to be in for a shock. He’s an old man here, and it’s played that way, too. It becomes a particular issue during an action sequence in this episode.

- For all the social media shitstorm that has erupted over Patrick Stewart’s comments about the political nature of things this show is tackling, there is only one scene where the dialogue is clearly being very referential to issues in our own world today. And you know what? It’s one of the best dialogue driven scenes I’ve seen in Star Trek, and is Star Trek to its absolute core. It’s some of Stewart’s best work in Trek too, I think, and reminds me of how he floored me with his acting in the FC scene where he broke his “little ship.”

- That same scene is almost tragic, seeing how Picard’s now perceived by the wider world.

- Visually, I felt they did a good job of making this feel like it takes place about 150 years after Discovery. For as modern as Discovery’s tech can look, the tech in Picard felt like it was even fancier.

- Holograms feel different here. Works great.

- The fate of B4 is rather sad, and takes away that hope from the end of NEM.

- Very few of the main cast are in this episode, which is clear immediately from the opening credits cast list.

- Speaking of the opening credits, they’re visually stunning. Very similar to Discovery’s, in the sense of lots of imagery being created before our eyes, etc. Much like how Discovery’s music ends with the TOS bit, Picard’s ends with a few notes from the TNG music - works much better than Discovery’s, for me. The main theme for this show is great, can’t wait to listen to it properly.

- the TNG era Klingon appearance is still canon.

- Some brilliant one liners in this that Trek fans will laugh out loud at.

- I loved how Earth looked and felt in this. Dahj’s first scene, in particular, looked great.

- Data’s scenes are brilliant. They’re almost a completely different vibe to everything else going on in the episode, and I think that makes them stand out a bit more.

- The death toll of the attack on Mars is MUCH greater than the 3000 shown on screens in Children of Mars. Throw in the impact it had on other things going on in the galaxy, and you could argue it was in the millions/billions. This attack isn’t just a historical event - a few lines of dialogue leave me feeling that it’s going to become a significant plot point as this season develops.

- Isa Briones is now currently my favourite thing about this new era of Star Trek.

- There was a trailer still the end (a “this season on Picard” deal) that contained a LOT of new footage I hadn’t seen. The show looks great.



Honestly, I loved it. I knew I would, anyway, but this still blew me away. The opening sequence was jaw dropping and not at ALL how I thought the show would open, and everything in this episode felt like a love letter to Trek and TNG in particular.

People will have different opinions, of course. But I loved it, my father loved it (took him, as my partner couldn’t make it - no babysitter for us!), and everyone around us was using the word “excellent.”

Big shoutout to Amazon, too. This whole evening was superb, from top to bottom.
 
Well, I’m currently sat on a train home, and won’t get through my front door for about 3 more hours. Was it worth it, for one episode of Star Trek?

YES!

I’ve decided that, quite frankly, I don’t want to ruin this for people. So, I’m not going to go into deep detail, especially as we were asked not to post spoilers or reviews online until 6pm next Thursday, so I’ll feel a bit guilty if I go spoiler mad. Enough people are putting all the information out there, so I don’t really need to!

With that said, if you want to be kept completely in the dark, don’t read any more of this post...

...

You’ve been warned.

...

- This is a fantastic hour of television. After about 20 minutes, I knew I’d just seen the best opening 20 minutes of a Star Trek series, ever.

- Whilst this show is very clearly a 10-part single story, rather than a 10 episode season (so to speak), I feel that this hour of TV worked absolutely perfectly on its own, too.

- We see the exterior of only one Starfleet starship in this episode, and I doubt there’s a single Trekkie on the planet who won’t be happy with it.

- We do see models of three previously established Starfleet vessels. Can confirm that there has been no redesign of them.

- People who are used to Picard being the way he used to be, are going to be in for a shock. He’s an old man here, and it’s played that way, too. It becomes a particular issue during an action sequence in this episode.

- For all the social media shitstorm that has erupted over Patrick Stewart’s comments about the political nature of things this show is tackling, there is only one scene where the dialogue is clearly being very referential to issues in our own world today. And you know what? It’s one of the best dialogue driven scenes I’ve seen in Star Trek, and is Star Trek to its absolute core. It’s some of Stewart’s best work in Trek too, I think, and reminds me of how he floored me with his acting in the FC scene where he broke his “little ship.”

- That same scene is almost tragic, seeing how Picard’s now perceived by the wider world.

- Visually, I felt they did a good job of making this feel like it takes place about 150 years after Discovery. For as modern as Discovery’s tech can look, the tech in Picard felt like it was even fancier.

- Holograms feel different here. Works great.

- The fate of B4 is rather sad, and takes away that hope from the end of NEM.

- Very few of the main cast are in this episode, which is clear immediately from the opening credits cast list.

- Speaking of the opening credits, they’re visually stunning. Very similar to Discovery’s, in the sense of lots of imagery being created before our eyes, etc. Much like how Discovery’s music ends with the TOS bit, Picard’s ends with a few notes from the TNG music - works much better than Discovery’s, for me. The main theme for this show is great, can’t wait to listen to it properly.

- the TNG era Klingon appearance is still canon.

- Some brilliant one liners in this that Trek fans will laugh out loud at.

- I loved how Earth looked and felt in this. Dahj’s first scene, in particular, looked great.

- Data’s scenes are brilliant. They’re almost a completely different vibe to everything else going on in the episode, and I think that makes them stand out a bit more.

- The death toll of the attack on Mars is MUCH greater than the 3000 shown on screens in Children of Mars. Throw in the impact it had on other things going on in the galaxy, and you could argue it was in the millions/billions. This attack isn’t just a historical event - a few lines of dialogue leave me feeling that it’s going to become a significant plot point as this season develops.

- Isa Briones is now currently my favourite thing about this new era of Star Trek.

- There was a trailer still the end (a “this season on Picard” deal) that contained a LOT of new footage I hadn’t seen. The show looks great.



Honestly, I loved it. I knew I would, anyway, but this still blew me away. The opening sequence was jaw dropping and not at ALL how I thought the show would open, and everything in this episode felt like a love letter to Trek and TNG in particular.

People will have different opinions, of course. But I loved it, my father loved it (took him, as my partner couldn’t make it - no babysitter for us!), and everyone around us was using the word “excellent.”

Big shoutout to Amazon, too. This whole evening was superb, from top to bottom.


Thanks for the review. Do you know how long the episode lasts. Is it 50 minutes or longer?


Jason
 
Apparently the pilot is called " Remembrance "
I will try to post a source to that....

Update: here's the source
https://entertainment.inquirer.net/...-isa-briones-young-actors-in-star-trek-picard
I'm gonna take this as gospel for now. I can always change the title if it turns out to be something else.

There's a fair amount of other spoilers in there.
Like an entire episode later on dedicated to Riker/Troi, Data will appear later on past the first episode, and those three are the only TNG main characters we'll get to see.
Then why list them if they're for future episodes? Fixed it.
 
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