Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by The Old Mixer, Jan 8, 2020.

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  1. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    We'll see if they constrain the directors once they get into space. This ep already demonstrated a space shot that was very much like what we'd get on Discovery. The first ep certainly reminded me more of Discovery than any previous Star Trek show.
     
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  2. eschaton

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    That's stupid though. There's a thing caused focus.

    If I'm listening to a video on my left monitor, I'm not going to be able to do a close reading of something on my right monitor.

    Similarly, if there's really oddly composed shots - or say if the music is cranked up to 11 - I'm not going to be paying close attention to dialogue.

    Unless the intent is for you to not pay close attention to dialogue that is.
     
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  3. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I don't think it's about confidence, just difference in shows. The Discovery camerawork style would be largely out of place on Picard.
     
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  4. Romulan_spy

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    I know. But I did not interpret Picard's statement as being about how many people the Federation could save but about how many people would be affected the supernova.
     
  5. eschaton

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    I believe some of the most successful episodes of Berman Trek were effectively stage plays. Like say Duet on DS9. It was about the two characters in the room and everything else was secondary.

    Mind you, not every Trek episode needs to be like that. But some can, and are quite successful at it.
     
  6. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    I didn't have any trouble with following dialogue and cinematography at the same time when i was watching Disco.
     
  7. Uhura's Song

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    Or Hendrix. ;)
     
  8. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I don't think the cinematography really made it hard for me to understand dialogue. But the extent to which SFX and music were constantly playing while people were talking certainly did.

    There's also some wisdom in letting the "quieter" moments be quiet in order to make the "louder" moments stand out more. If everything is fancy camerawork, fancy camerawork stops being notable in the scenes it's really helpful.
     
  9. Rasmussen

    Rasmussen Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Loved it. Especially the fact that soong type androids are still unique! They seem to honor TNG in many aspects while doing the necessary updates. Unlike that other show we‘re not comparing it to.
     
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  10. Alan Roi

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    Yes, you can restrain your directors from doing anything interesting with their camerwork in order to replicate a stage-like setting. But allowing them to be less restrained and more creative isn't stupid, IMO.
     
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  11. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    Like anything else, there’s a balance to be had. I’m more of a traditionalist, so I enjoy the traditional work more.
     
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  12. Alan Roi

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    It sounds like we haven't been watching the same show. Like Picard, Disco offers up plenty of quiet moments where the story calls for it.
     
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  13. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    I'm thinking Mother Love Bone.........
     
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  14. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Early thoughts:
    • Great to see JLP again, as well as Data and the Enterprise-D
    • Enjoyed that the show was more intimate and not as frantic as Disco (which I do enjoy)
    • Fear that the overall arc will be a Cylon-Skinjob repeat. Hope not.
    • Enjoyed the use of the "Balance of Terror" Romulan theme.
    • I was right about Dahj.
     
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  15. thribs

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    I’m still going with that Soong is still alive and is now living inside a advanced android. He always seemed to be someone with a backup plan.
    I just don’t see Maddox being smart enough to make these Terminators. Unless he had help from Flint of course.
     
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  16. IMC Headquarters

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    The title sequence hosts a first in that the character of Picard himself is actually seen. And the theme of reconstruction, more than exploration, runs throughout.
     
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  17. Corran Horn

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    Seemed to me he was saying (and it was implied) that due to the losses from the attack the Federation basically said "GLHF" as members figured they had their own problems.
     
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  18. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    It isn't clear to me in what qualitative way a conversation between two people in a room on a spaceship with artificial gravity would differ from the same conversation in a hotel room on Earth, and even less how having a continuously-moving camera helps convey that difference in any way.
     
  19. Ketwolski

    Ketwolski Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I'm late to this review thread, but I think this was an excellent episode. Perfect in my mind and I loved watching it, even for the 6th time just now. I cannot wait until we get more of this plot, meet the new crew, and kick off this adventure!
     
  20. KennyB

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    Hey @Ketwolski #pouritup