Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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  1. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Worf is in this!!!

    Sorta. Looks proud.
     
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  2. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    It's what I said above. It was a Felodesine chip!! :)
     
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  3. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    Didn't vote for Trump. Hate Trump. Stop painting everyone with the same brush.

    If we don't keep the media accountable, who will? They're being sued all the time for a reason. They're worse now than they were 20 years ago. And there's no excuse for it because they have more resources than EVER in history to get the story right. But they still don't. Cherry-pick, omit details, push, bury the lead.

    Personally I blame the internet, social media, and the rise of the internet media as a whole for diluting journalism. One can be distrustful of the media without being a Trump supporter. That you can't see that is a pretty sad indictment of how easily you judge people.
     
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  4. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Agreed. Plus, the reporter says the rescue armada was wiped out, and Utopia Planetia destroyed, which makes it seem that that was the actual target. The 92,000 may just have been the people who worked at Utopia Planetia, in orbit and on the surface. The large planetary explosions may just have been construction facilities of various kinds, not centers of population.
     
  5. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Probably not the right forum for this, but…you say these things as if they are facts, and that's part of the problem in this post-truth world we live in. People spout things without citing sources, having seen them on Facebook or TV and accepted them as given without critical thinking. I don't think people called you Trump because they thought you voted for him or were a fan. Rather, it's because you talk like him. You can say anything you want, including, "The media is worse now than they were 20 years ago," sure. But if you don't even try to substantiate claims like that then don't expect anyone to go along with you.
     
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  6. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    There's always the "she was transported at the last instant and is a Romulan prisoner" option....but she looks pretty dead from here.
     
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    GulBahana Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I thought it was great. I wanted more. I can tell they worked hard at making something for long time TNG fans. I hope they do not continue to do dream sequences in future episodes though.
     
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  8. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    I don't expect anyone to go along with me. I stated an opinion and refuted the implication that I support Trump.

    Reading comprehension and not jumping to conclusions are useful skills to have in life.
     
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  9. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Pump those breaks a little @Crewman6

    Any real world politics should be taken to TNZ.......this is NOT the place for it. So let's not continue it here. Mmmmmm kay?
     
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  10. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I appreciated the more traditional camera work.
     
  11. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    So much this.
     
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  12. Corran Horn

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    On first watch I took that as "they destroyed Utopia Planitia and the rescue armada"--as if the armada was on its way but also destroyed.

    On second watch I now assume that the rescue armada was under construction at Utopia Planitia and since the synths attacked there (and Mars) the armada was destroyed.

    Whether the synth attack and the armada are linked, I don't know. Maybe they obviously are?
     
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    Well, I would not be a true Star Trek fan if I failed to point out that according to the Star Trek Star Chart factbook, Romulus has a population of 18 billion in 2368. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Apparently when its the Picard show, no one notices the 360 crane shots enough to complain it makes them feel dizzy like they do almost every episode of Discovery whether there is one or not.
     
  15. eschaton

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    I watched a review recently that made the point Discovery often uses weird camera angles for seemingly no purpose. Like, there's a scene of two people talking in a corridor, and instead of just framing them, or following them down the hall, the shot will start up near the ceiling and then do a 180-degree pan. As if they're so scared that a static shot is going to bore us they have to make the camera active.

    Picard has the confidence to not do this.
     
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  16. KennyB

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    I'm just hoping Geordi survived since he is commanding the shipyards in the comics........
     
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    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I've seen it once, at 7AM this morning. But then, I never complained about the camera work on Discovery or the Abrams films. I just appreciate that this feels more traditional. It gives it a different feel from Discovery.
     
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    It would be unfair to expect the Federation to save them all. Even building thousands of ships, they were going to run out of time.
     
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    In one of the Discovery Season 2 commentaries the director mentions that no two shots would be alike, and staged as such. A deliberate choice to keep things fresh.
     
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  20. Alan Roi

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    i don't have a problem with Disco's cinematography reminding viewers they are watching a show set in space and not in a hotel on earth as being a problem, but then I found the cinematography of the Berman era to be pretty boring even at the time.
     
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