Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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  1. fireproof78

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    *best news anchor voice* Further updates as this story unfolds.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
  2. jaime

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    Check out Armitage III xD
     
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  3. Doc Mugatu

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    Actually, "Space:1999" was a syndicated TV show (like Babylon 5) and NOT a network series here in the U.S..
     
  4. jaime

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    It’s a Gerry Anderson TV show made here in the seventies...aside from me having no interest in it (or Blake’s 7, which ends on a dark note) it’s simply a matter of rules at the time, as well as societal trends, that it by its nature cannot be grimdark, and certainly not anywhere near DSC. By the rules of the time, it couldn’t even reach TNG/VOY levels on horro/gore alone.
    Put it this way, even the Aliens films don’t get anywhere near grimdark, and those are blue collar SF dystopias with body horror and slasher movie set-ups. (Ok...AVP2 probably comes closest to crossing the line, and resurrection can arguably come close because of its cyberpunk elements...but doesn’t.)
     
  5. Jedman67

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    She's not a terribly important character
     
  6. Alan Roi

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    Again, watch Dragon's Domain and get back to me what Space 1999 could or couldn't do back in the 1970s. And to suggest DISCO is darker than the Aliens films is laughable. I however, don't expect Picard to get any much darker than TNG got, because I don't see any evidence of that kind of interest from Stewart or Chabon.
     
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  7. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    That was twenty years ago and Marie wasn't particularly young back then
     
  8. jaime

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    I am not gonna go buy a box set to watch a show that bores me, when I already *know* it cannot be by its nature. I mean Robin of Sherwood got pretty weird, but you aren’t gonna sell me that as being Game Of Thrones either.

    Edit: to sate your crazy, I read the wiki and looked at the box set.

    It is a PG.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    Nothing else should be Game of Thrones.
     
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  10. Alan Roi

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    I wouldn't have to see you Robin of Sherwood being Game of Thrones because Discovery isn't comparable to Game of Thrones either, although it did plenty of things that were pretty dark for a Robin Hood show and remains one of my favorite series of all time.
     
  11. Alan Roi

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    I thought Black Sails did everything worthwhile Game of Thrones attempted and generally succeeded where GoT failed. But that's really the exception that proves the rule.
     
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  12. fireproof78

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    Witcher kind of tried it too, though I think it succeeded in making the politics a lot more interesting, if incredibly strange to follow.

    Regardless, my point stands. Game of Thrones was unique, for good or for ill, and trying to replicate is unnecessary, at best, and irritating at worst.
     
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  13. Doc Mugatu

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    What a terrible thing to say about someone! Marie Picard is a valued and respected character within the Star Trek universe as is Samantha Eggar, the actress who portrayed her and who is still very much alive by the way.

    She pretty much the same age as Jean-Luc.
     
  14. Doc Mugatu

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    I'm confused … is this a thread for "Picard" or "Game of Thrones" or "1970s sci-fi television"? :shrug:
     
  15. fireproof78

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    It's a TrekBBS thread so the answer is D: All of the Above.
     
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  16. Lord Garth

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    I can vouch for that. They don't make anime like that anymore. I highly recommend Armitage Iii: Poly Matrix to anyone. Anyone who's cool, that is.
     
  17. Lord Garth

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    I'm lost too.
     
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  18. Doc Mugatu

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    So can I talk about Quark (the 1970s dystopian sci-fi TV series starring Richard Benjamin and created by the recently departed Buck Henry and NOT the Deep Space Nine character brilliantly portrayed by Armin Shimmerman)?
     
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  19. BillJ

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    Simplistic worked because they were wrapping things up in 48 minutes vs. eight hours. They were giving a complete story (beginning, middle and end) in those 48 minutes. And things weren't always simplistic as shown in episodes "A Private Little War" or "The High Ground".
     
  20. Noname Given

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    She was younger than Picard was then. That said, would you want to live alone in and on a property where the rest of your immediate family died, if you had other options? I could believe she decided to move and live somewhere else after the tragedy and not really want to return.