PIC S3 Ships & Tech

[137th Gebirg]

it was not Paramount, it was one of the authors. And it happened several times for several comics and books.

Ah, got it.

Is it possible that the writer(s) may have gotten tacit blessings from Paramount initially to be considered canon, only to have it scrubbed later, though? I suspect we'll never know the complete story, sadly. Sounds like there was a lot of back-alley email conversations lost to time...

 

[jackoverfull]

Come to think of it, with any new canon content in the Abramsverse apparently set on, it's never gonna happen ;-), those comics are still not contradicted.

plenty of content set in every timeline hasn’t been contradicted, this doesn’t make any of it canon.

Is it possible that the writer(s) may have gotten tacit blessings from Paramount initially to be considered canon, only to have it scrubbed later, though?

sounds extremely unlikely. Especially as, if I remember correctly, the wording was that they, the authors, considered it canon, which doesn’t really mean much honestly.

I can come up with stories where Kirk is alive in the 24th century and that will be true for my stories, but it won’t actually make Shatner’s books canon.

Ans especially these days where more and more conflicting canon is appearing the whole discussion is sliding into irrelevancy anyway.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Makes sense. I guess we'll never know the backstory of all that with 100% certainty. Oh, well... Moving on!

 

[Dukhat]

CBS/Paramount doesn't give a rat's ass about the canonicity of tie-in media. It's just another way to make revenue, like toys or model kits. I mean, they're not going to approve something that directly contradicts anything, like a comic that suddenly kills off a main character, but other than an extreme example like that, they usually don't bother with the minutiae.

 

[fireproof78]

We can acknowledge that Admiral Picard in the "Countdown" comics actually had command of an Odyssey-class starship, the USS Verity, apparently for several years in the 2380s. Perhaps this helps further canonize the design into "Prime" Trek works, even if it makes the ship appear even earlier than the STO timeline or Picard S3 puts it.

Mark

The history is something that could be fleshed out. It's always interesting to see how they take other designs outside of the shows and weave them in to the shows.

 

[Tuskin38]

it was not Paramount, it was one of the authors. And it happened several times for several comics and books.

Regarding the 2009 Countdown, He was nagged into saying it was canon by the interviewers, and everyone took that out of context. He even said in the same interview it wasn't up to him to declare something canon.

 

[NCC-73515]

Sovereigns and a new class

Spacedock, now apparently a museum

 

[Dukhat]

Sovereigns and a new class

Odyssey class Enterprise-F
2 Sovereign class ships
1 Sagan class ship
1 Sagan-type ship with only upper nacelles (It has a class name but I don’t remember it)

The ships further out also seem to be the same as the above.

 

[publiusr]

Spacedock, now apparently a museum

They made the “Ournal” mushroom angle less steep.

Maybe some A.I. Can flatten it more into a super saucer.

 

[NCC-73515]

“Ournal”

 

[publiusr]

Fanon
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/jac-ournal-class-spacedock.php

 

[NCC-73515]

how is it less steep?

Minimal differences, and note that the angle is different in each picture.

 

[publiusr]

That’s my bad eyes I suppose.

 

[Dukhat]

Drexler posted the Titan-A’s dedication plaque on Facebook. The ship is Constitution-III class. So does that mean that the TMP refit has been retconned to be the Constitution-II class?

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

More on the Titan-A bridge with a strangely incongruous diagram superposition:

https://twitter.com/startrekphoenix/status/1606004159207309312?s=20&t=Q6WslZWyEGbJ61IAvpYvVA

Trekmovie has summed up all the new Titan stuff so far:

https://trekmovie.com/2023/01/30/st...son-3-cameos-shares-behind-the-scenes-images/

Jorg HIllebrand on Twitter is calling the new two-nacelled ship design the "Echelon-class", not sure where he's getting that:

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1620142553864478729?s=20&t=Q6WslZWyEGbJ61IAvpYvVA

Mark

 

[137th Gebirg]

The new aliens look like a mix between the TNG Schisms aliens (Solonae) and Keenser.
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[Mark_Nguyen]

Unless those are scary organic-looking masks, of course. Like the Wraith, the Dhakh, Plo Koon, Jason Voorhees in some iterations...

Mark

 

[Captain_Amasov]

More on the Titan-A bridge with a strangely incongruous diagram superposition:

https://twitter.com/startrekphoenix/status/1606004159207309312?s=20&t=Q6WslZWyEGbJ61IAvpYvVA

Trekmovie has summed up all the new Titan stuff so far:

https://trekmovie.com/2023/01/30/st...son-3-cameos-shares-behind-the-scenes-images/

Jorg HIllebrand on Twitter is calling the new two-nacelled ship design the "Echelon-class", not sure where he's getting that:

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1620142553864478729?s=20&t=Q6WslZWyEGbJ61IAvpYvVA

Mark

Echelon-class came from the production team:

https://twitter.com/virtualbri/status/1568288266117607425?lang=en-GB

 

[137th Gebirg]

I wonder if we'll ever see official orthos of these ships, now that Eaglemoss is defunct. At least, until Master Replicas starts (hopefully) producing new designs.

 

[Dukhat]

I wonder if we'll ever see official orthos of these ships, now that Eaglemoss is defunct. At least, until Master Replicas starts (hopefully) producing new designs.

I’m almost positive Doug Drexler will post them on Facebook.