The Sutherland class. And the ship I believed to be a California class is actually seen only for a second. When Riker and Picard are on the shuttle and Riker makes his ‘hello beautiful’ comment, right before the scene pans out of the shuttle and then cuts away, there is a ship visible for just a second. That’s the one I think is a Cali.
https://trekmovie.com/2022/09/14/in...-rikers-roles-more-star-trek-picard-season-3/ Beverly's ship is in the trailer, Titan is more maneuverable with its impulse engines, and the saucer design is more stable than the elongated ovals and arrows...
Notably they’re saying that with the new Titan they’re looking backwards deliberately, and that bits of the last TiTan were incorporated into this one. He implied the same of the Stargazer last season in another interview. Not sure what to make of that train of thought. Mark
Humans are still obsessed with the past, just like they were before? As Archer would say the human race is petty stubborn; you can't expect us to change overnight. Given the tendency in TNG (especially) to venerate human history it doesn't surprise me that they would look to the past again after several devastating conflicts.
Those alien ships that dock with Crusher's ship, the SS Eleos, are the Elachi ships from STO but with red coloring in stead of the green in the game.
The Luna-Class Titan was apparently worn out too much or something and retired. Sutherland Class It was confirmed that they're not being used by Elachi.
Massive ship spoiler! Spoiler The F is an Odyssey class, as many have hoped, and many have feared, and some have said would never ever happen XD Is the Titan NCC-80102?
Holllllllly ship!! Perhaps a little early in THIS timeline but I’m not complaining. man’s yes, that’s definitely a Titan-A. Well well, at least ship-wise this season is shaping up nicely. Mark
A little early in this timeline for that, too, in my opinion...but I'm not any of the series' showrunners.
Maneuvarebility is determined by a ship's ability to lower its own inertial mass and thrusters. Impulse engines are basically nothing more than field generators... so its field manipulation (similar to warp drive) that affects the speed of the ship. Would slapping huge amounts of impulse engines aid in their sublight capabilities? Possibly, but then you come up with the problem of VFX showcasing them lugging about in combat or dangerous situations. Early seasons of given series tend to show ships more accurately in how they move, etc... then later on they become lumbering weights... ccompletely ignoring the in-universe tech and overall capabilities. The Titan-A definitely looks more and more like a 25th century Constitution class ship (I'm still irked about the ball phasers - doesn't make sense to have those in the 24th/25th century - unless this design is an older Connie Type II which was upgraded with 25th century tech - which seems like it could be), but I don't think it follows the original Titan design evolution (then again, the Enterprise-B was an Excelsior class ship and subsequent Enterprises were more in line with that rather than the Constitution). I don't see the point in SF replacing ship classes so fast though. 24th century ships are designed to work for 200 years. You can use a pre-existing ship and keep modifying the heck out of it during regular upgrade cycles - its shape would change over time radically as well (especially after 200 years). We don't see almost any Galaxy or Sovereign class ships these days. Correction, we HAVE seen a Sovvie class in Pic S2, and some Galaxy class variations (or what looked like variations). I don't mind if the Galaxy underwent design changes in the early 25th century what with all the Borg upgrades, etc... but why is SF portrayed as replacing ships after only 10 years in active service? Its utterly stupid and a waste of resources.
Starships named Enterprise have been notorious in this regard. Granted, some of these points were retcons, but that doesn't excuse anything. It's all canon. NX-01 - 2153-2161 (8 years): The ONLY reason why the ship was decommissioned was so that it wouldn't be a Federation starship, as the NCC-1701 has canonically been the first. There's no other logical reason why it would have been scrapped. And why did Starfleet wait 80 years before naming another starship the Enterprise? NCC-1701 - 2245-2285 (40 years): Despite Morrow's idiotic comment that the Enterprise is 20 years old, Starfleet is ready to decommission a perfectly good ship (and a refit one at that); its only problems being that it came under attack by Khan. NCC-1701-A - 2286-2293 (7 years): Nothing has ever been canonically stated or shown that the Enterprise-A was anything other than a brand-new vessel as of 2286, which makes its decommissioning only 7 years later even more mind-boggling than the NX-01. NCC-1701-B - 2293-?: Sometime between 2293 and 2344 (51 years), the Enterprise-B must have been decommissioned or destroyed. But even if the B was in service for, say, 25 years out of those 51, its replacement with the Ambassador class Ent-C makes no logical sense. There are literally tons of Excelsiors still active in the TNG era. Why would the B have been decommissioned at all if this were the case? And if it was destroyed, why didn't they just replace it with another Excelsior? NCC-1701-C -?-2344: Ditto above for service history. The C was commissioned some time between 2293 and 2344 (51 years). Why did Starfleet not make the next Enterprise another Excelsior? And instead, why did they make it a relativly obscure class of ship that was barely ever seen, especially in the large DS9 fleet shots, where we mostly saw Excelsiors? And why did Starfleet wait 20 years to build another Enterprise? NCC-1701-D - 2363-2371 (8 years): The D was destroyed only 8 years into its service, so we don't know how long it would have lasted otherwise (other than seeing the AGT future where it was decommissioned by 2395 (at least 32 years of service), which is also quite short. NCC-1701-E - 2372-?: We can't as yet calculate how long the E lasted, since we don't as yet know the circumstances of its decommissioning/destruction, or when the Enterprise-F is operating.
That, or because of creation of the Federation, and merging 4 different species science and technology into one may have resulted in the NX-01 being decomissioned earlier. On the other hand, PIC Season 2 does have the NX-01 refit as a model on showcase in the Picard mansion while Jean Luc was just a kid. This could imply that the NX-01 may have been decomissioned, but, it could have been recomissioned and upgraded with the secondary hull addition to extend its service. If that happened, it could have been in active service for 80-83 odd years. Pretty much... but then Kirk also blew it up. That it does. Its possible that SF was adamant about replacing the Constitution class with the Excelsior class ships though, hence the ENT-B. I don't know. Perhaps we can ask someone on Tuesday (tomorrow)? In all seriousness, its possible SF was in a 'lets replace the old Enterprise with a new class of ships modern to the era'. It seems to have carried a bit of a 'prestige' in this sense because significant changes in technology occurred which (at the time) might not have been possible to easily install in the Excelsior class. Maybe there was politicial nonsense going on with the Enterprise 'showing the flag' so to speak... and they may have figured that using the Ambassador class might have been better for this. Maybe Starfleet wanted a break with the Enterprise ships for a while. Who knows. We've been shown that SF does some very questionable things at times. AGT certainly showcased it running in the future... but, it was mentioned in that two parter that Riker had to pull it out of mothballs... so the ship was evidently pulled from active service after about 25-30 odd years. I would imagine the Enteprise-F was already operating for a few years since PIC season 1 aired. So, its possible the Ent-E was in service for 25 years (until about 2395) before being decomissioned and replaced with the F. Seems utterly wasteful. Its as if SF began to replaced the Enterprises with every major change in crewmen (or the captain). Once the captain and first officer of the ship steps down, the entire ship is decomissioned and a new one give to a new crew. We know that the Consitution class dates back to before Strange New Worlds... and Pike has been in command of the ship for a while... so the original 1701 seemed to have seen at least several major crewmen changes... but since then, if an old crew retired or moved on, the ENT class followed? I dunno. Could be just pure chance that we saw something like this happening. I doubt that the captain of the ENT-B was in command for 51 years. Possible? Yes. Likely? Nope. In all likelihood, he would have been promoted long before that happened, and his first officer (whoever that may be at the time) would have taken his place.
We can acknowledge that Admiral Picard in the "Countdown" comics actually had command of an Odyssey-class starship, the USS Verity, apparently for several years in the 2380s. Perhaps this helps further canonize the design into "Prime" Trek works, even if it makes the ship appear even earlier than the STO timeline or Picard S3 puts it. Mark
I remember a very brief time when Paramount did declare that the Countdown issues leading up to the events that occurred in the first Abrams '09 movie were canon. Geordi building Spock's Jellyfish ship and Nero's backstory including upgrading his "simple mining ship" with Borg tech. There was a big to-do about it on the web, with a bunch of news articles being published about it, being the first non-on-screen canonical work in the history of Trek. And then it wasn't, and that was that.
it was not Paramount, it was one of the authors. And it happened several times for several comics and books.