Phase II Enterprise Study Model
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He's just paying tribute to that planned Phase II episode, "Darmok" 
He's just paying tribute to that planned Phase II episode, "Darmok"
Shouldn't they use the yellow beam effect then, too (coming out of the wrong place and the wrong color)?
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Lovely, lovely model. Beautiful.
^^^Except the phasers would have come from the weapons tube, not the saucer.
How do you know?
The TMP Enterprise had phasers out of the saucer, and photon torpedos from the "weapons tube" as you call it.
Pure supposition on your part me thinks
Spockboy
I guess you missed this post a couple pages back:^^^Except the phasers would have come from the weapons tube, not the saucer.
How do you know?
The TMP Enterprise had phasers out of the saucer, and photon torpedos from the "weapons tube" as you call it.
Pure supposition on your part me thinks
Actually, they're right.
For the fun of it I modified Jefferies' Phase II diagrams a bit to look like the TOS Writer's Guide diagrams and set them up for a comparison...
... which includes the location change for the phasers on the Phase II design.
So it might have looked something like this (though not as nice as Spockboy's) ...
But yeah, always from the same location (either beam or energy bolts), and always a blue effect (for Starfleet ships). They wanted to be far more consistent with the effects for the new series than they were with the original.
And yes (before anyone asks), that was the type style they were planning on using for the new series, they weren't going to reuse the original one.
For the fun of it I modified Jefferies' Phase II diagrams a bit to look like the TOS Writer's Guide diagrams and set them up for a comparison...
... which includes the location change for the phasers on the Phase II design.
So it might have looked something like this (though not as nice as Spockboy's) ...
But yeah, always from the same location (either beam or energy bolts), and always a blue effect (for Starfleet ships). They wanted to be far more consistent with the effects for the new series than they were with the original.
And yes (before anyone asks), that was the type style they were planning on using for the new series, they weren't going to reuse the original one.
It sorta looks like the TWOK font, but it isn't the same (plus the font style was an outline rather than solid). I don't know if the color is what they would have used, but third season of TOS and TNG used that color (and I liked it) so I went with it.
The font is based on what started to appear on printed material late in preproduction (but before the series was converted to the movie). And it looks like it might have also been the starting point for what ended up being created for TMP.
The phaser color was specified in both the original series and second series writers guides as being blue. The first time the effects people got it right was in The Alternative Factor. They finally became consistent with the effect starting with Journey to Babel (mostly because they stayed with the same effects shot for the rest of the series).
And the term "Phase II" wasn't used by anyone back then, it was always going to be "Star Trek II" and everything was labeled that way (including all of Jefferies' plans for the Enterprise). From what I can tell, the term "Phase II" started getting used when TWOK went into production to help differentiate "Star Trek II" the TV series from "Star Trek II" the second movie (because "Star Trek II" was easier to say than "The Vengeance of Khan").
The font is based on what started to appear on printed material late in preproduction (but before the series was converted to the movie). And it looks like it might have also been the starting point for what ended up being created for TMP.
The phaser color was specified in both the original series and second series writers guides as being blue. The first time the effects people got it right was in The Alternative Factor. They finally became consistent with the effect starting with Journey to Babel (mostly because they stayed with the same effects shot for the rest of the series).
And the term "Phase II" wasn't used by anyone back then, it was always going to be "Star Trek II" and everything was labeled that way (including all of Jefferies' plans for the Enterprise). From what I can tell, the term "Phase II" started getting used when TWOK went into production to help differentiate "Star Trek II" the TV series from "Star Trek II" the second movie (because "Star Trek II" was easier to say than "The Vengeance of Khan").
I guess you missed this post a couple pages back:^^^Except the phasers would have come from the weapons tube, not the saucer.
How do you know?
The TMP Enterprise had phasers out of the saucer, and photon torpedos from the "weapons tube" as you call it.
Pure supposition on your part me thinks
Aha!
Yes I completely missed that.
My mistake sir.
Spockboy
Pure supposition on your part me thinks
Anyone who knows me knows I don't state suppositions as fact without evidence.
Pure supposition on your part me thinks
Anyone who knows me knows I don't state suppositions as fact without evidence.
Well now that I know you I can say once again, my mistake sir
So here is the AMENDED version...
So were there not going to be photon torpedoes in Trek II?
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