Peter David's Q-SQUARED reviews/discussion thread....
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It could be a situation like the Q-in-Law audiobook, only one that didn't turn out positively. Q-in-Law features both deLancie and Majel Barrett playing off one another, and it's really quite good. However, Simon & Shuster's audio licence didn't then (and probably doesn't now) cover audio plays. It was because of who Majel was that the Q-in-Law audiobook went out the way it did, because who wants to tell Gene Roddenberry's wife that she can't be in an audiobook about her character?
If Q-Squared's audiobook might've been similar--with deLancie and Campbell playing off one another--the audio might have been re-edited to take out the audio play aspects.
I actually just saw the final Q episode on Voyager, and it really seemed to tie in quite well with Q-Squared. Obviously this episode dealt with Q's son as opposed to Trelane (though, of course, tehre is a hint Trelane is Q's son anyway), but the notions of Q being his eternal guardian, letting him interact with humans and his general behaviour were very reminicent of Q-Squared.
And who knows, maybe q grows up to be Trelane.
Sorry, it doesn't work. Q Squared asserted that it was a longstanding tradition in the Continuum for Q children to be mentored by elder Q. But "The Q and the Grey" established that procreation among Q was unprecedented before then. They just don't mesh.
Ah, but you're thinking too linearly here. Why couldn't the events of "The Q and the Grey" and "Q2" occur prior to Q-Squared, at which point it has become a longstanding tradition?
I don't follow. How is that a problem?
^ Because the D was destroyed around the same time Voyager was lost in the DQ. Q-Squared pretty much has to take place before the Voyager Q episodes. Also, the Q's notion of a "longstanding tradition" would span millennia and not change in the course of a human lifetime. 
Why does Q-Squared have to before the Voyager episodes?
As for the tradition, you're assuming that Q's appearance in Q-Squared happens chronologically in the same order as the events for the mere humans.
As for the tradition, you're assuming that Q's appearance in Q-Squared happens chronologically in the same order as the events for the mere humans.
Well, how on earth are the humans suppose to know if it's the same Q chronologically? That's a silly assumption.
My point is there is no real reason to not believe q could eventually become Trelane.
My point is there is no real reason to not believe q could eventually become Trelane.
It's impossible for q to become Trelane. The young q has extensive knowledge of humanity's future up until the 2370s, if not beyond. Trelane was totally unaware of any human history more recent than the Napoleonic Era.
Also, even the juvenile q had far more power than Trelane had in and of himself. Trelane needed a machine to do his tricks for him. He didn't have the power in himself, he used technology.
So you're presenting a postulate that would require:
a) A character travelling back in time.
b) The same character somehow losing all memory of centuries of history.
c) The same character somehow losing virtually all his innate powers.
d) The character's parents appearing and behaving in a way totally unlike how we've seen them behave onscreen.
I'm sorry, but that's got way too many ad hoc assumptions to take seriously. You're starting with an unsupported and unlikely thesis and making up a ton of absurd postulates in order to justify it. The more you try to rationalize it, the less rational it becomes. You might as well try to argue that B'Elanna Torres somehow goes back in time, changes sex and species, loses her memory, and becomes Trip Tucker.
Also, even the juvenile q had far more power than Trelane had in and of himself. Trelane needed a machine to do his tricks for him. He didn't have the power in himself, he used technology.
So you're presenting a postulate that would require:
a) A character travelling back in time.
b) The same character somehow losing all memory of centuries of history.
c) The same character somehow losing virtually all his innate powers.
d) The character's parents appearing and behaving in a way totally unlike how we've seen them behave onscreen.
I'm sorry, but that's got way too many ad hoc assumptions to take seriously. You're starting with an unsupported and unlikely thesis and making up a ton of absurd postulates in order to justify it. The more you try to rationalize it, the less rational it becomes. You might as well try to argue that B'Elanna Torres somehow goes back in time, changes sex and species, loses her memory, and becomes Trip Tucker.
Could have been just an act. A stretch, yes, but it's possible.
Well, that's not difficult considering the Q have shown many times they are capable of this. Unless you mean the character regresses, but that's not time travel.
That is certainly possible.
There are ways around that. For instance, Trelane gave the appearance of being limited to a machine to further his play acting with Kirk, Spock, and company. It's a stretch, yes, but it's still plausible.
Okay, I can grant you, but it's still possible the whole thing was for show, which is certainly within the nature of Q and Q.
Whoever said I was being rational? And whoever said time traveling and beings beyond human comprehension is rational (by human standards, no less)? Sometimes irrational is the best explanation.
That's not even remotely analogous to what I am trying to state.
Dang, and SNW had to go and get all canceled...
If you really, really want q and Trelane to be the same person, then you can go through those mental gymnastics to justify it to yourself. Based on the evidence from the books and the series, though, it is much easier to place Q-Squared in an alternate continuity like the Rihannsu books.
Just because there are young Q doesn't mean they have to be children of the Q. Take Amanda Rogers, for instance, or even Riker. Non-Q can become Q, and those new Q would logically require guidance in their newfound powers and mental realms; Trelane might have been an entity that likewise becomes a Q, and goes through a mentoring process with honorary 'parents' since, by Q standards of longetivity, he truly is just a child.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Because they're arrogant. Most people who claim to being omnipotent generally are.
