Also, Vendetta & Before Dishonor are a duology. Because of that, Vendetta is part of the relaunch, even though the book was published over a decade earlier.
Warning - Once Burned... part of the New Frontier series, and the whole series must be read in the proper published order to get the most out of them.
Really? Didn’t know that. Never read Vendetta. Liked Before Dishonor. That’s how they should have used Seven.Also, Vendetta & Before Dishonor are a duology. Because of that, Vendetta is part of the relaunch, even though the book was published over a decade earlier.
In BD, the backstory about Reannon Bonaventure and how the E-D saved her from the Borg is discussed in length, plus the planet killer’s backstory from Vendetta is also referenced.Really? Didn’t know that. Never read Vendetta. Liked Before Dishonor. That’s how they should have used Seven.
Although "Once Burned" is a very powerful standalone novel of an oft-mentioned past incident in Calhoun's career.
Lighthearted is fine by me. "The Trouble With Tribbles" and "A Piece of the Action" are two of my favorite episodes of TOS, and the Gene Coon era of TOS is my favorite. I just don't like it when in-jokes to other properties pull me out of the reality of a story. That's an easy problem to avoid, IMO, and it's one that PAD falls prey to too often, I think.I never minded his more light-hearted take on Trek, it balances out a lot of folks who treat it far too seriously.
Breaking the reality of your story just for a gag is a really, REALLY bad idea, and David succumbs to that temptation way too much, IMO.
Never read him, but if he does a lot of that sort of thing, probably not. A lot of Philip José Farmer's jokes in his stuff have struck me as similarly belabored, if that helps.I'm guessing you're not a Roger ("Then the fit hit the Shan") Zelazny fan.
Yeah, that's exactly the sort of in-joke I hate. It instantly takes me out of the story and feels like PAD is doing everything short of elbowing me in the ribs and saying, "Hey, do you get it? Do ya GET IT?? That's another part that Patrick Stewart played!! Pretty clever, huh?" Well, no, it's not.
I appreciated the Frasier in-joke in The Captain's Daughter because I didn't catch it until a reread years later. By PAD standards, that was extremely subtle. If he'd done something like giving Captain Bateson a brother named Niles and a father named Martin, I'd be rolling my eyes.
Breaking the reality of your story just for a gag is a really, REALLY bad idea, and David succumbs to that temptation way too much, IMO.
I haven't read that, but yeah, that sounds like something I would've hated, not in the least because I generally dislike Kevin Smith's movies.I remember one book (the author of which escapes me at the moment) who put in a scene with two lieutenants at some outpost who were based on Randall and Dante from the Clerks movies, right down to their names and Dante's catch phrase, "I wasn't even supposed to be here today!"
This one I think I know which one you mean. Was it the Errand of Vengeance or the Errand of Fury trilogies by Kevin Ryan, perhaps?And another trilogy of books where literally every guest character was named for a member of the Star Trek production staff.
This one I think I know which one you mean. Was it the Errand of Vengeance or the Errand of Fury trilogies by Kevin Ryan, perhaps?
Every Star Trek book Peter David has written up to and including Stone and Anvil range from good to superb. Past that they're kinda variable.
A Rock And A Hard Place, Imzadi, Q-Squared, Once Burned, & Stone and Anvil in particular are some of the best Trek books ever written. Warning - the last two (Once Burned, Stone & Anvil) are part of the New Frontier series, and the whole series must be read in the proper published order to get the most out of them.
Feel free to stop after Stone and Anvil and pretend that's the last New Frontier book though
That's exactly my point of view. Before Dishonor was utterly.......weird and for me personally bad. But I've been rereading NF and Being Human/Stone And Anvil is where I am right now. And like you said, after that I'll stop.
He likes his in jokes.
Vengeance, then Fury. I looked it up before replying to you before. I was mis-remembering the title as Errand of War, but that was the title of a Mike W. Barr comic book story that followed up on "Errand of Mercy" and "The Savage Curtain."Whichever one came first.
An entire chapter of Zelazny's Lord of Light (and some say the entire novel) was written around the spooner-pun,Never read him, but if he does a lot of that sort of thing, probably not.
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