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Peter David

Calling Quintin Stone a Proto-Calhoun...

Does a massive disservice to one of the best and most original characters in all of Treklit. Now don't get me wrong, there are indeed similarities between Mac and Stone, and I love Calhoun a lot but Calhoun comes at things with his past as a warlord and "barbarian" informing his actions.

PAD himself made that comparison. PAD created Stone, was pleased with the reactions to him, and used that character as a basis to create a new, continuing character, alien captain-to-be, Calhoun.
 
Calling Quintin Stone a Proto-Calhoun...

Does a massive disservice to one of the best and most original characters in all of Treklit. Now don't get me wrong, there are indeed similarities between Mac and Stone, and I love Calhoun a lot but Calhoun comes at things with his past as a warlord and "barbarian" informing his actions.

PAD himself made that comparison. PAD created Stone, was pleased with the reactions to him, and used that character as a basis to create a new, continuing character, alien captain-to-be, Calhoun.
*nodding* Yeah I know. And it's not inaccurate, but I still think it's selling Stone short and also there are far too many people that hear a character referred to that way and assume that it's identical to the later character, and as much as I love Calhoun, I find Stone different enough that I always wished he'd reappear.
 
No. You've just outgrown his work.

Sad, but true.

I remember being so blown away by Imzadi. But it does not hold up fifteen years later. Even Vendetta, which was pretty awesome, seems like kind of a kiddie Star Trek book.

The guy is a comics writer. It shows. Not everyone can be Alan Moore.

I love reading Vendetta. It's just as relevant and serious in tone as BOBW, and still gets my attention some 15 years after I read it for the first time. Peter David is a very competent, capable writer who infuses humor and a wink and a nod, every so often, into his often otherwise serious work.
 
There are quite a few Peter David novels that I've read that I liked (The Captain's Daughter and Q-in-Law being two examples off the top of my head), and I sorta enjoyed the New Frontier series, but Before Dishonor, for so many reasons (which I describe here in my initial review thread) completely turned me off from him. The things I had sorta enjoyed in his other books completely failed in BD, and it's poisoned the well a bit for me from here on out.
 
Peter David is one of my favorite Trek authors. I love the 'New Frontier' series. I enjoyed the series more before it started jumping ahead in time; they're still good books but I feel like I'm missing out on all the character growth that I enjoyed in the earlier volumes - like I'm missing a bunch of really cool adventures. Also, it's strange to be waiting for installments because I read the whole series in 2007/2008.

I also love "The Captain's Daughter" and "Before Dishonor", which some apparently strongly dislike, which is fine, since I know lots of people that can't stand 'New Frontier', which is probably my favortie Trek book series.
 
Calling Quintin Stone a Proto-Calhoun...

Does a massive disservice to one of the best and most original characters in all of Treklit. Now don't get me wrong, there are indeed similarities between Mac and Stone, and I love Calhoun a lot but Calhoun comes at things with his past as a warlord and "barbarian" informing his actions.

PAD himself made that comparison. PAD created Stone, was pleased with the reactions to him, and used that character as a basis to create a new, continuing character, alien captain-to-be, Calhoun.
*nodding* Yeah I know. And it's not inaccurate, but I still think it's selling Stone short and also there are far too many people that hear a character referred to that way and assume that it's identical to the later character, and as much as I love Calhoun, I find Stone different enough that I always wished he'd reappear.

They're clearly different, it's just an added little extra if you're a big NF fan, and also makes it a good place to start.

Let's face it, if PAD had wanted to use the exact same character, he'd have retconned it until it worked.
 
He is by far my favourite Star Trek author. I pretty much stopped buying Trek books in 2001, having filled up four shelves of a big bookcase with them, but he's the only Trek author whose books I have consistently bought since then.

Cartoonish? Not really any more so than the TV show. He makes the point himself quite often, comparing Calhoun's exploits to Kirk's more outrageous ones.

His lighter tone, fun characters and memorable scenes offer all I need from a Trek book.
 
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