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Pegg's Scotty: Just Say No!

The one area I didn't like about Scotty is how he talked about the Enterprise in an almost womanizing fashion. Calling her well endowed and getting his hands on her. The original Scotty wouldn't like that.
 
At least Pegg could pull off a believable Scottish accent - something Doohan couldn't do.

Pegg was great.
 
At least Pegg could pull off a believable Scottish accent - something Doohan couldn't do.

Pegg was great.

"Because, unlike other Montgomery Scotts, I have a Scottish Accent."

Couldn't resist!

I liked Pegg just fine. My wife and I are re-watching the TOS movies now and we are continuously struck by the nuance and attention to detail in the characterizations in Trek XI, Scotty included.
 
I enjoyed Pegg's performance, but we saw so little of Scotty that I, at least, don't think I saw enough discern whether he's a good Scotty or not. I mean, he was on screen for, like, 5 minutes total, and part of that time he was whooshing through a tube. Not a lot to go on, IMO.
 
I liked Pegg a lot but I wasn't looking for him to ape the TOS character, in fact I think I might have liked it more because he didn't really try to, whereas the more faithful performances of Urban and Quinto didn't do as much for me.
 
3. Not credible. Engineers just don't act the way Pegg does, in general. Not for one moment did anyone believe Pegg was actually an engineer: he was acting like a salesman or class clown who happened to be cast as an engineer.

As an engineer myself (and a former Naval engineer type to boot) I can tell you that you're totally off base here.


If you're an engineer, do you just love to change things?

:devil:
 
3. Not credible. Engineers just don't act the way Pegg does, in general. Not for one moment did anyone believe Pegg was actually an engineer: he was acting like a salesman or class clown who happened to be cast as an engineer.

As an engineer myself (and a former Naval engineer type to boot) I can tell you that you're totally off base here.


If you're an engineer, do you just love to change things?

:devil:

Well, in my job with how many times we've had to "fix" our software because a client's DBA/IT staff screwed something up with the working environment for no apparent good reason I'd say probably so.
 
I thought Pegg was great, and I'm glad they cast someone memorable in the role. I was afraid Scotty would get overlooked (like Sulu was for the most part), and was relieved when he was given some key scenes.
 
Some people have suggested they enjoyed Pegg's performance. Yet others, including myself, have stated that the portrayal of Scotty was terrible.

Can a performance be good and terrible at the same time?

In the case of Scotty's portrayal: yes.

No. Pegg's portrayal of Scotty is just fine - period. No "terrible" about it. :)
 
3. Not credible. Engineers just don't act the way Pegg does, in general. Not for one moment did anyone believe Pegg was actually an engineer: he was acting like a salesman or class clown who happened to be cast as an engineer.

As an engineer myself (and a former Naval engineer type to boot) I can tell you that you're totally off base here.
I'm glad you said this -- and I'll back you up on this one...

Through my work (I'm an architect) I have worked for a firm that included many building-design engineers who are not strangers to the inside of a bar, nor are above acting like buffoons.

I have also consulted with a huge well-known defense/aerospace contractor and had a long-standing (multi-year) professional relationship with several of the defense contractor-style engineers who worked there.
I went on several three-or-four day long out-of-town business trips with these same engineers over the course of the years, so we became pretty good friends -- and believe me when say that we spent some of our evenings on these business trips drinking, carousing, and acting with general buffoonery in less-than-reputable drinking establishments.

We didn't do this every night (most of us are family men, afterall), but it's safe to say that I know enough about these engineers and others to say that engineers in general are just as capable of being hard-drinking and wild-acting (to the point of embarrassing themselves) as anyone.
 
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3. Not credible. Engineers just don't act the way Pegg does, in general. Not for one moment did anyone believe Pegg was actually an engineer: he was acting like a salesman or class clown who happened to be cast as an engineer.

As an engineer myself (and a former Naval engineer type to boot) I can tell you that you're totally off base here.


If you're an engineer, do you just love to change things?

:devil:

I'm sure there are lots of engineer jokes but my favourite is:

Optimist: the glass is half full
Pessimist: the glass is half empty
Engineer: the glass is twice the capacity it needs to be (or volume - I'm no engineer :D)
 
I'm sure there are lots of engineer jokes but my favourite is:

Optimist: the glass is half full
Pessimist: the glass is half empty
Engineer: the glass is twice the capacity it needs to be (or volume - I'm no engineer :D)


Hey, you're a Scot- what did you think of Pegg's performance?
 
1. Humor is too silly and obvious. Scotty is used as slapstick, as broad comic relief. He says mostly silly things, in an overacting, hammy manner. The comments about food on Delta Vega, the towel comment, and the "exciting" comment, were all attempts at humor by being silly.

But the humor in Star Trek is not supposed to be silly or slapstick. The other characters' jokes are wry and ironic: "is there a problem, officer?"; "no, not really." "at ease"; "I would cite regulation, but I know you would ignore it"; "aural sensitivity"; and so on. It's out of key, in the midst of these clever and subtle lines, to have childish, over-obvious humor.

Have you seen TOS???? Especially ones featuring Scotty? "It's green!" "Where they'll be no tribble at all."
 
The one area I didn't like about Scotty is how he talked about the Enterprise in an almost womanizing fashion. Calling her well endowed and getting his hands on her. The original Scotty wouldn't like that.

After being exiled on an ice planet with only Keenser as company, Scotty probably had more than just food on his mind. ;)
 
I won't lie... Pegg was the one casting decision that had me the most worried. However, I was glad to go into the theater and be shown that I was wrong to worry. He did a great job with his acting and I didn't think his humor was out of place. In fact, it was the sort of humor that only TOS can really pull off. The sort of humor that TNG tried with Insurrection and failed at because it didn't fit there.
 
I was upset when I read that Paul McGillion did not receive the role of Scotty. While watching the movie, I realized my opinion of why Pegg was picked over McGillion, that it was for comic relief. I couldn't see McGilllion playing Scotty as a goof ball like Pegg did, but I'm not saying that Pegg didn't do a good job at it. Now that casting is over, just let Pegg stay where he's at, maybe the next movie will be better written for him.
 
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