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Paul McGillion in "Star Trek XI"

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I don't think so.

To say Robert April is "iconic" is a non sequitur at best.

How many casual Trek fans even know who he is?
 
Is it me or does it look like McGillion is wearing a Genii uniform in that Trek XI pic? Now I'm trying to think up a joke about him and Chief O'Brien hanging out.

So it seems McGillion's role is some sort of Starfleet Academy instructor? I was hoping he'd be Robert April. Hell I'd be satisfied if he were Gary Mitchell or Finnegan. But generic instructor? Yet another mistake in this movie's long list of mistakes.


Who's Robert April?
 
Is it me or does it look like McGillion is wearing a Genii uniform in that Trek XI pic? Now I'm trying to think up a joke about him and Chief O'Brien hanging out.

So it seems McGillion's role is some sort of Starfleet Academy instructor? I was hoping he'd be Robert April. Hell I'd be satisfied if he were Gary Mitchell or Finnegan. But generic instructor? Yet another mistake in this movie's long list of mistakes.


Who's Robert April?
He is supposed to be the original captain of the Enterprise NCC-1701. He's featured prominently in the book "Final Frontier" and in one of the animated Trek episodes, "The Counterclock Incident". There's a bit more about him on memory Alpha, here
 
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And yeah, I like Simon Pegg as much as the next geek, but I disagree with the notion that he's capable of playing Scotty. McGillion looks like a young Doohan and was born in Scotland, for crying out loud. We've seen an intensity of focus and emotional range in his acting that fits right along with the Scotty I at least remember. It's right up there with what it must have been like when Michael Shanks auditioned for the role of Daniel Jackson. To cast the incredibly one-note Pegg over someone visually suited for the role who already knows their way around intense science fiction technobabble and is already comfortable with the Scottish accent? I mean, McGillion had "obvious perfect casting choice" all over him. I will think Pegg's a mistake until the minute the movie starts, then he has the chance to prove me wrong. And before people start launching things, I've seen Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and his stint on Doctor Who,and I was not overly impressed by any of them.

I would say you suffer from a lack of imagination but you've dreamt up a Star Trek none of us have seen. What show have you been watching for 40 years? "Intensity of focus and emotional range" isn't required to play Scotty. Let's be honest, it was a two-dimensional stereotype of a character and Doohan wasn't that great of an actor.

Paul McGillion isn't that fantastic of an actor. He brings...an accent. Doohan brings...a shittier accent. Pegg brings the accent, the star power, the comedy and he can show some true range if needed.

You have to realize you're being ridiculous. I can't understand why fans of some of the most inspired and imaginative fiction ever crafted are so stifled creatively to even understand when the series is being updated and why certain things make sense.

And don't get me started on how stupid the concept of "canon" is around here.
 
Simmer down, please. You're getting a bit too personal in your response, Slim.
 
We've seen an intensity of focus and emotional range in his acting
I agree. He was another underutilized actor on SGA. I always enjoyed his screentime. Hopefully we'll see much more of him in the future.

As for Simon Pegg, I have no idea who he is. I just hope he does a good job in the role for my own selfish reason of enjoyment.
 
Is it me or does it look like McGillion is wearing a Genii uniform in that Trek XI pic? Now I'm trying to think up a joke about him and Chief O'Brien hanging out.

So it seems McGillion's role is some sort of Starfleet Academy instructor? I was hoping he'd be Robert April. Hell I'd be satisfied if he were Gary Mitchell or Finnegan. But generic instructor? Yet another mistake in this movie's long list of mistakes.


Who's Robert April?
He is supposed to be the original captain of the Enterprise NCC-1701. He's featured prominently in the book "Final Frontier" and in one of the animated Trek episodes, "The Counterclock Incident". There's a bit more about him on memory Alpha, here



So basically, there's no on screen evidence or even mention of him anywhere...

In other words, he doesn't actually exist, canon wise. Why the hell would they put him in the film? With him AND Pike it would just confuse matters.

Paul McGillion isn't that fantastic of an actor. He brings...an accent. Doohan brings...a shittier accent. Pegg brings the accent, the star power, the comedy and he can show some true range if needed.

I agree, McGillion is fine for SGA, but he's not that good. Pegg offers infinitely more and will help sell to the UK market.
 
::chuckles:: I'll just stick with Jimmy Doohan. I don't think Pegg can pull off the range it'd take to do a TOS-era Scotty, love him though I do in his other roles. For me, there'll only ever be one, even if this movie DOES turn out to be the greatest thing ever.

Then again, I'm pretty sure no one can ever be perfect for that role except for Doohan. As he said, and I repeat, Scotty was 99% Doohan, 1% accent, and inspired a generation of engineers into NASA. That's one tough act to follow.
 
I would say you suffer from a lack of imagination but you've dreamt up a Star Trek none of us have seen. What show have you been watching for 40 years? "Intensity of focus and emotional range" isn't required to play Scotty. Let's be honest, it was a two-dimensional stereotype of a character and Doohan wasn't that great of an actor.

Apparently, you weren't paying a ton of attention, either. But hey, when Simon Pegg manages to get half of NASA's engineers to raise their hands and say, "His Scotty was my reason for being here," then we'll talk. Until then, you just come off as being a somewhat spiteful critter. Being frustrated doesn't give you carte blanche for being ignorant.

...and honestly, Doohan did a heck of a lot of work in his day. He was all over radio, stage and screen back in his era. If he sucked that bad, he never would have gotten the sheer amount of work he did. Just because you've only seen one of his roles doesn't mean you're really any judge on his acting. Go research a bit. He was a class act. And really, a very versatile actor, too.

And hey, since I'm here? He was a damn fine human being, to boot.
 
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That depends on whether you count TAS as on screen.

Is that the animated series? Then no, I don't count it as part of official Trek. Do we count Stargate Infinity as part of Gate canon?

I have to chuckle at the suggestion that this one person who was mentioned once in TAS and NO hint of him anywhere else should be given a role in STXI. The suggestion that April is "iconic" is simply laughable :lol:
 
Is that the animated series? Then no, I don't count it as part of official Trek. Do we count Stargate Infinity as part of Gate canon?

Infinity and TAS are very, very different things. For one, TAS is about the same characters we saw in TOS, played by the same actors and written by the same writers.

People contributing to Memory Alpha are expected to include TAS as canon.
 
Regardless, the argument that April is iconic and should be included in STXI because of one mention in one episode of TAS is pretty funny
 
^So, basically, Nemesis would have been better because Michael Shanks is, apparently, hot and some Canadian TV actor is a better choice than an already well known film star who also happens to be a fan himself and is determined to do the role justice ?

I'm just going to sit here and be the last person on Earth who wants to watch this movie because he's a Star Trek fan and not because of what the cast look like. I won't be sitting here moaning about the new Enterprise design, ship registration numbers having the wrong number of zeroes or Shatner not being in the movie.

I like Paul McGillion as much as the next guy but if his fans can't see why Simon Pegg, someone Abrams has worked with before, then that's not really my problem, Pegg's or indeed Abrams'.

I would have thought Shanks would have felt relieved not to have been cast once the movie debuted. :guffaw:
 
I would say you suffer from a lack of imagination but you've dreamt up a Star Trek none of us have seen. What show have you been watching for 40 years? "Intensity of focus and emotional range" isn't required to play Scotty. Let's be honest, it was a two-dimensional stereotype of a character and Doohan wasn't that great of an actor.

Apparently, you weren't paying a ton of attention, either. But hey, when Simon Pegg manages to get half of NASA's engineers to raise their hands and say, "His Scotty was my reason for being here," then we'll talk. Until then, you just come off as being a somewhat spiteful critter. Being frustrated doesn't give you carte blanche for being ignorant.

...and honestly, Doohan did a heck of a lot of work in his day. He was all over radio, stage and screen back in his era. If he sucked that bad, he never would have gotten the sheer amount of work he did. Just because you've only seen one of his roles doesn't mean you're really any judge on his acting. Go research a bit. He was a class act. And really, a very versatile actor, too.

And hey, since I'm here? He was a damn fine human being, to boot.


That is the silliest argument. Nerd boys want to work for NASA, ergo, Doohan was a great actor. :guffaw:

C'mon, that's apples and oranges. That's like saying since there was a spike in people majoring in forensic science, it must be because David Caruso is brilliant on CSI Miami.

If you take out your romanticized, personal connection to the series, you'll realize that a) Scotty wasn't a fully fleshed out character and b) Doohan had little to do as an actor. The only ones who got to actually were Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley. Be real.

It totally doesn't matter who plays Scotty how. To get people to give two shits about Trek so that Paramount gives us more new Trek, you gotta give mass appeal and throw canon and NASA engineers (:rommie:) and get contemporary film actors who have proven themselves in mass appeal and acting talent.
 
Okay... enough of a divergence into Trek. The iris is opening to bring you all back to the Stargate forum.
 
Yes headmaster, back to Stargate...

Um... yeah, McGillion in Star Tre- oops

Anyway, he'll have a 1 minute scene, no more.
 
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