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Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...

Time marches on. Settings change. Characters change. Showrunners change. Broadcast options change.

And yet, we're having the exact same arguments we did in 2002. Canon. Military. Money. Mary Sues. Gene's vision. Etc.

Well, on this board it seems to work just fine. ;)
 
Well, on this board it seems to work just fine. ;)

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Basically, it means that names, faces, and sutuations may be different, but they are the same later.

An example: a corporate CEO lays off 25% of all their people in 2000... for 'reasons'. He shortly leaves the company a few years later. A new CEO comes in 2020, and lays off 20% of all the company... again, for 'reasons'.

New people, new time, different circumstances... but still do pretty much the same things.
 
Well, on this board it seems to work just fine. ;)

The phrase is useful when it comes to putting things in perspective, by reminding us that what may like some new and unprecedented situation -- that has never, ever happened before -- is actually an old, familiar story that keeps getting replayed over and over. Only the surface details change, the basics remain the same.

"Oh, no! The new SPACE MERMAIDS movie has divided fandom like nothing ever before. SPACE MERMAIDS has been ruined forever -- just like the last sixteen times it has been ruined forever, going all the way back to 1972!"

It's funny. Just the other day, elsewhere on the internet, somebody posted an angry screed from some old STAR WARS fanzine, circa 1980, about how THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK had ruined STAR WARS forever by "fracturing" the fan base. What was hilarious was just how much the language was pretty much identical to modern screeds railing against DISCOVERY, THE LAST JEDI, the latest DOCTOR WHO -- or whatever.

The more things change, the more they stay the same . . . and then some!
 
The Whovian fandom is something else, I tell you. Arguments in that fandom community are brutal.

I saw an actual out and out pushing match over an argument about who was better..the 9th or 10th Doctor.
 
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"Waltzes are ruining the younger generation!"
"Novels are ruining the younger generation!"
"Jazz music is ruining the younger generation!"
"Movies are ruining the younger generation!"
"Comic books are ruining the younger generation!"
"Rock-and-roll is ruining the younger generation!"
"Video games are ruining the younger generation!"
"TikTok is ruining the younger generation!"

Same old story. Different set dressing.
 
In my opinion more trek is good. It beats arguing about what Kirk had on his turkey sandwich in the trouble with Tribbles.

Its telling that a one-off comment about the trouble Tribbles were causing is more memorable than the majority of Berman - CBS Trek.

The Whovian fandom is something else, I tell you. Arguments in that fandom community are brutal.

I saw an actual out and out pushing match over an argument about who was better..the 9th or 10th Doctor.

Why fight over that? Compared to certain OS Doctors, #9 and 10 are crap-assed pretenders! :)
 
See also:

"Waltzes are ruining the younger generation!"
"Novels are ruining the younger generation!"
"Jazz music is ruining the younger generation!"
"Movies are ruining the younger generation!"
"Comic books are ruining the younger generation!"
"Rock-and-roll is ruining the younger generation!"
"Video games are ruining the younger generation!"
"TikTok is ruining the younger generation!"

Same old story. Different set dressing.
Wash, rinse , repeat
 
Is it really more memorable or does it just seem that way because we've been rewatching that episode over and over and over for nearly 60 years?

I've seen episodes of Berman Trek (now decades old) more than one time, yet when I step back and consider the entire franchise, so much of it is not memorable and feels empty.
 
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