Parallel Universe episode?

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  1. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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    Almost every Trek show has done a "parallel universe" episode. Did Voyager? I feel like "alternate timeline" episodes were favored by the writers.
     
  2. Oddish

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    The Mirror Universe was featured in TOS, DS9, ENT, and DIS.
     
  3. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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    I am aware. I'm not asking about the MU, but parallel universe as a general concept in regards to Voyager.
     
  4. NCC-73515

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    There was a duplicate Voyager in one of the earliest episodes, but that's it.
    Living Witness was kinda what a Mirror Voyager would've been like.
     
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  5. Timelord Victorious

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    Year of Hell May not be exactly what you are looking for.
    It‘s more an aborted timeline which is causally linked to the prime universe.
     
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  6. B'elanna_Torres

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    From memory, Non Sequitur did have Harry cross over to a version of his timeline where he never served on Voyager.
     
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  7. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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    The duplicate Voyager is from "Deadlock." Janeway explained that a spatial rift duplicated matter, but not antimatter. A single Voyager became two, coexisting in the exact same place in space-time somehow, unaware of each other until later in the episode. I always wondered why Janeway of the damaged Voyager didn't order all hands to abandon ship. Blow the ship. Either they join the pristine Voyager or aquire an alien ship and fly side by side with Voyager.

    "Living Witness" may have been Mirror Universe in tone, but it was basically a holodeck episode set in the far future.

    "Year of Hell" was an alternate timeline. For me, it was VOY's equivalent to "Yesterday's Enterprise" from TNG.
     
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  8. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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    Wasn't that an alternate timeline? Harry couldn't go home, because home didn't exist anymore, because time had been changed due to his shuttle accident. He had to recreate it with Tom on a Runabout. I loved that those two were such good friends, it spilled over into the alternate timeline.
     
  9. B'elanna_Torres

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    It's been literally over a decade since I watched Voyager.

    But, yes, I remember it as being a parallel reality where, while Harry exists, his destiny and Voyager's is very very different.
     
  10. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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    If Harry bumped to a parallel reality, where did that Harry go?
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    Before and after showed an alt timeline where Voyager never met Seven of Nine.

    Fury started a few alternate timelines where Kes destroyed Voyager in season 6, Janeway murdered and didn't Murder Kes in almost the very beginning of Season one. So our crew died in Fury, and they were replaced by dopplegangers who were carrying around an Ocampan corpse in a cargo bay. Although, Neelix and Kes should have taken her lungs.
     
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    Guy, do you find paralle universes and alternate timelines to be synonymous? I'm asking if VOY did an episode more like "Mirror, Mirror" or "Parallels" where an alternate universe is visiting without time travel being a factor.
     
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    Yeah, I basically view Living Witness as Voyager's 'mirror universe' episode. Never mind that of course it's only a holodeck simulation and that it doesn't correspond with the actual 'mirror Universe' events (the Terran Empire being defeated) -- it's the "crew of evil counterparts" that counts.
     
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  14. Oddish

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    Correct. This could be considered a "Parallels" type alternate universe. Or an alternate timeline. Maybe they're just the same thing anyway.


    The Vidiians arrived before they could get the chance. Then, that Voyager was destroyed, taking the enemy with them. If any Voyager crew escaped (not impossible), they could not rejoin the other Voyager; the portal between the two was obliterated. Presumably, with no ship to travel in, they would have started a new life in the Delta Quadrant.


    Ceased to exist, presumably. In that timeline, Harry Kim was an excellent officer in the shuttle design department who mysteriously went off the rails. He and an ex-Maquis tried to steal a prototype starship, purpose unknown, and were killed in the process.
     
  15. NCC-73515

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    They should be the same
     
  16. JoseNoodles

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    There's Timeless, which featured a timeline where Voyager crashed into an ice planet, and Chakotay and Kim are the only ones who make it home. Endgame also featured a timeline where Voyager took the long way home, during which Seven died.
     
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  17. at Quark's

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    Ditto for Time and Again , except on a smaller scale (just affecting one planet and an aborted timeline of one day),
     
  18. Finn

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    I’d liked to see Voyager’s version of Parallels. Constant attacks by the Talaxians and a Kazon cook...and Malons accusing them of polluting subspace..., oh and a Captain Cavit
     
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    <battlestar galactica '78 music>
    Fleeing from the Talaxian Tyranny, the lost starship Voyager loads a ragtag fugitive Kazon Cook on its lonely quest -- a shining planet .... known as Earth.

    Who would be your choice for 'Worf' in that episode (i.e. the person sliding between these different realities)?
     
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  20. Finn

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    ^the problem is that Voyager didn’t have a dumbass character like Worf was, which made Parallels wonderful.