Panoramas of Enterprise interior on official site

[Tom Servo]

I have no problem with story construction that take the crew off the ship and different worlds, you saw how well that was done "insurrection"

But to say that we do not see a very large Star Wars influence in this movie, well I am not sure what you are watching.

People can't just dismiss the visuals in a movie. If that is the case, just have JJ Read the movie to us or sell it as a book. The visual element in a movie is very important. From what I have seen, JJ has done very little to respect the style of look of not just TOS Trek, but all the movies and TV Series.

But even Insurrection had the problem of "the characters are there, because the Enterprise is there." That and it was not a great movie, it felt like a blown up television episode, but thats another matter.

And Im glad that JJ took the Trek look in another direction. I have seen 5 series and ten movies of the Trek look. It was time for something a bit different. He has taken the basic ideas, and changed them in order to fit into a modern movie setting and budget. I can see a Star Wars influence on some things, as much as I see an old Trek influence and a 2001 influence. Im sorry, but black shiney floors and bright hallways do not automatically scream Star Wars in my view.

I guess I could see someone commenting on the VFX style being similar to the Star Wars films, since ILM is doing Trek, and each VFX House has its own unique style and cues, and even that is pushing it, because from what I have read and heard, the CG and VFX shots in this completely blow away anything seen in the prequels.

So "because the Enterprise is there" Insurrection was bad? True it was not a good movie, but you do know that the "Enterprise" is in this movie!

So we should go see this movie, because the effects will blow away all other effects? Then why have a movie, let just have 60 min effects reel of explosions and ships attacking other ships. Movie today use effects to save a movie. That is why we have shit movies.

I never said either of those things. The problems with Insurrection being a crappy film have nothing to do with the Enterprise being in it. Im just saying that along with the other Trek films, they lack a certain epicness because they all take place around this one ship. Yes there is an Enterprise in Trek XI, but a lot of the story takes place even before she is introduced.

And I also never said that the reason that we should see he film is because of the effects. I was saying that while I could not understand your accusations of this Trek film copying off of Star Wars, I could understand if someone thought the VFX style was similar, since ILM did both films. No where did I say that was the only reason to see the movie, but in a film like Star Trek or Star Wars, quality visual effects is one small part of the movie experience. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[JoeRalat]

The people who run the studio are smarter than that.

No studios are not smart, they just want money.

Most people want money.

People who run studios and are not smart do not last very long.

You have studios take shows off, like Firefly, Arrest and Development just to name two. Its all about money!

Generally speaking, studios do not "take shows off" - nor, for that matter, do they "put shows on." Do you know what a studio is?

So a studio has not influence in what happens to a show? What about NBC Universal?

 

[JuanBolio]

What? Have you seen the design of the Enterprise? The Star base in the first trailer. He got people who worked on Star Wars Designs to Design the New Enterprise. Look at the super bowl ad with the SF Shot. HELL Shining Black floors in the corridors. Its not just me saying this, you have people who like this movie, saying thats it like 2001/Star Wars.

Also the interviews where Kirk will be more like Han solo, Star Trek in the Shadow of Star Wars..etc...etc

He turn Star Trek VS Star Wars into Star Trek vs New Star Trek..where the new Star Trek is Star Wars in sheep's clothing.

Here it is in his own words. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27216676/

I've seen it all, read it all, and it still doesn't remind me much of Star Wars. Sorry.

 

[Gepard]

This thread =

 

[M'Sharak]

We do seem to be wandering from the topic somewhat, don't we?

 

[ITL]

I don't think that the day will come where I can write more than a very short paragraph about the relative merits of corridors on fictional starships. The ones in question? They look fine to me. I mean - they're corridors. Um.

 

[ancient]

I'm not 100% happy with the new corridors (like that's really such a huge deal...) but they don't really look like anything in Star Wars. Nothing in the new movie really does, aside from being huge budget SciFi effects that look amazing. In that regard...ok, but that's not really a problem.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

So a studio has not influence in what happens to a show? What about NBC Universal?

Generally speaking, studios do not "take shows off" - nor, for that matter, do they "put shows on." Do you know what a studio is?

Yep, some studios are owned by companies that also own television networks. But you weren't using weasel words like "influence" until you were called on suggesting that studios control the programming and cancellation of television shows.

 

[trevanian]

I don't think that the day will come where I can write more than a very short paragraph about the relative merits of corridors on fictional starships. The ones in question? They look fine to me. I mean - they're corridors. Um.

Maybe if you'd ever made a home sf movie you'd have more of an appreciation for what goes into them. First thing that went through my head besides the overkill of bulbs was that this is an X junction, so is this the center of the dish, or just a very strange set of corridors? Just seems wrong in a whole lotta ways.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

What is this obsession people have with bulbs? I don't get it.

 

[Ghrakh]

Okay since six pages have been devoted to color and design influences I think I can make this observation.
In corridors A & B, look at the airlock (they are clearly labeled "Airlock") placement relative to the curve of the corridor. Corridor A shows an closed airlock and either a hatch or a turbolift door at the other end.
Corridor B shows an open and closed airlock.
Take a look at the curve of the corridor in both A & B. From this I deduce that we are in the saucer section. Why else would the corridors curve... right? The saucer would be designed as a series of concentric circles, so airlocks would have to be on the outside of the circles, not the inside of, or breaking the circles... wouldn't they?
Yes, I know they need to have pressure doors for the sake of hull breaches and security, but if that's what these are... why are they closed? The lighting does not suggest an alert status.

Just asking.

I was curious about that myself. "Airlock" to me is a door to the exterior, while if it's an interior emergency pressure door, I think it would be called "emergency bulkhead" or something, and when open, not really intrude into the corridor. An airlock at the end of a curved corridor doesn't make sense...

 

[Psion]

I was curious about that myself. "Airlock" to me is a door to the exterior, while if it's an interior emergency pressure door, I think it would be called "emergency bulkhead" or something, and when open, not really intrude into the corridor. An airlock at the end of a curved corridor doesn't make sense...

It could lead to an airlock with a lift that goes to the saucer's top surface ... like the lift Kirk and company rode near the end of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

 

[trevanian]

What is this obsession people have with bulbs? I don't get it.

If I get a chance to talk with the art director this week, I'll ask him.

 

[Ghrakh]

It could lead to an airlock with a lift that goes to the saucer's top surface ... like the lift Kirk and company rode near the end of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

That makes sense, thanks. I probably dozed off in the theater and missed that...

 

[datas_cat_spot]

What is this obsession people have with bulbs? I don't get it.

If I get a chance to talk with the art director this week, I'll ask him.

It's ok to just say you have no reason.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Hot, corridor action.

 

[ST-One]

I don't think that the day will come where I can write more than a very short paragraph about the relative merits of corridors on fictional starships. The ones in question? They look fine to me. I mean - they're corridors. Um.

Maybe if you'd ever made a home sf movie you'd have more of an appreciation for what goes into them. First thing that went through my head besides the overkill of bulbs was that this is an X junction, so is this the center of the dish, or just a very strange set of corridors? Just seems wrong in a whole lotta ways.

Yeah, 'cause we've never seen those in Trek before...

 

[DaveyNY]

Hot, corridor action.

I think they're all Kool!

But the newest one is cock-eyed....

 

[137th Gebirg]

Since they said the engineering decks on the Enterprise look much different than the saucer, it could be the engineering hall. Supposedly engineering looks a lot more gritty and primitive for some reason.

Though that hallway is curved, so it could be the Kelvin maybe.

The curved hallway also..........
1. Could also be near the impulse engineering in the primary/saucer section.

2. Wrapping around a massive circular engineering room in the secondary hull.

3. The actual design aesthetic for most of the corridors on the ship, and the white ones for medical & science areas.


PS: Sorry for stirring up this hornets nest. I've just been meaning to ask this question ever since we saw the gleaming white corridors in the first trailer.

USS Kelvin I bet.

Yep. That would be my guess too. It is supposed to be a slightly older ship, which is why it seems to have design aesthetics reminiscent of "Enterprise".

 

[dillon3001]

I like what i've seen so far, although I could buy into the argument that theres too much white. Very much reminds me of 2001 A Space Odyssey, one of my favorite SF movies of all time. The first time i saw it, I thought it was a good movie, but it was only after i read the book did I really fall in love with it. I've read all 4 Odyssey books by Arthur C Clark and I would recommend them to anyone. I always thought 3001 The Final Odyssey would make an interesting movie.