Well, one of my Christmas presents this year was a TNG chess set, with Picard and Crusher as the King and Queen. I guess that even amongst novelty chess set makers, there are P/C shippers ...
P/C run amok...
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By all means, use the quote. I'll try and avail myself of a digital camera. The other pieces are as follows ...
Bishop=Data
Knight=Riker
Rook=Worf
Pawn=Enterprise
Some of the likenesses are slightly crude: Riker looks somewhat overweight, and Picard appears to be wearing lipstick!
Bishop=Data
Knight=Riker
Rook=Worf
Pawn=Enterprise
Some of the likenesses are slightly crude: Riker looks somewhat overweight, and Picard appears to be wearing lipstick!
I came into the forum looking to see if there was a thread on my first Trek ship and here you guys are. 
Very cool. I'm still very much the P/Cer and am quite miffed that they have yet to get together.
You all were talking about novels. Another novel that had good P/C moments is Q-Squared. Loved it.
Very cool. I'm still very much the P/Cer and am quite miffed that they have yet to get together. You all were talking about novels. Another novel that had good P/C moments is Q-Squared. Loved it.
^ Oh yes, Alternative Reality P/C is value for money too.
GG A TNG Chess set? I didn't know you could still get those. Dr Crusher as the Queen LOL, she'll get to go on more away missions that way I guess.
GG A TNG Chess set? I didn't know you could still get those. Dr Crusher as the Queen LOL, she'll get to go on more away missions that way I guess.
If I were Picard, I wouldn't send her on any away missions! She always gets into trouble somehow, either reviving injured Borg soldiers, or refusing to beam up when ordered and getting captured by terrorists as a result. Following orders has never seemed to be her strong point.
And this brings up a related question: should Picard not have actually had her transferred off the ship during Encounter at Farpoint, when he had the chance? I think it's quite obvious that she gets special treatment because of her relationship (or non-relationship) with the Captain. He wouldn't let anyone else get away with half of the things that she does, and that is apparent from the very first episode. Isn't this a bad thing? Isn't this why the current military has rules against fraternization with lower-ranked officers? Isn't this, in fact, why he had Nella Daren transferred off the ship, because he felt he couldn't be objective regarding her?
Just a thought.
I don't know, it could be her status as a CMO which lets her take a few liberties; I think we've seen similar things from Pulaski and McCoy. The CMO is outside the regular command structure, and also has the power to relieve a Captain of duty, so perhaps they're in a position to get away with a few more things.
^ Yeah I think The Cage, TOS and TNG doctors all had these great relationships with the captains where they could act as their conscience and do whatever they thought was best. But I take Naraht's point that Bev does have something of an advantage in that she can flirt more effectively than Bones could. 
Presumably there is a restriction on doctors having relationships with their patients in starfleet medical? So she'd be off that ship the next morning anyway. Or the legendary Dr Selar would make another appearance?
Presumably there is a restriction on doctors having relationships with their patients in starfleet medical? So she'd be off that ship the next morning anyway. Or the legendary Dr Selar would make another appearance?
Spoilers for A Time to Be Born
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It is much as you reported it, and at the same time very odd. Perhaps I'm missing some of the context of the plot, but it seems very sudden. They are about to leave the Enterprise for a time, Picard is facing some sort of inquiry, and Beverly shows up to talk to him. Fair enough. But she gets him to open a bottle of wine, somehow, and then says that she'll make it "a night to remember". Now, Beverly does specialise in making provocative statements, but it does seem as if she's working a bit quickly, even for someone who had spontaneous flings with Odan and Ronin.
However, the line doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else could she mean? If all she's implying is "we'll stay up all night getting drunk," that's a pretty simplistic definition of "a night to remember," even by the standards of Starfleet Academy cadets.
It seems that the author is trying to suggest a relationship that is becoming more intimate without going to any time or trouble implying it. It comes out of nowehere, and goes nowehere. Everyone else is supposed to skim over it, while P/C shippers squeal "ooh, they slept together!". It strikes me as extremely sloppy work. And I know I shouldn't say it, but... although I couldn't write the whole novel... I could do better than that.
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On New Year's Eve, I took some time off from all the festivities to find a Borders and check this report of yours. The scene is in A Time to Be Born, and I found it without too much trouble.
It is much as you reported it, and at the same time very odd. Perhaps I'm missing some of the context of the plot, but it seems very sudden. They are about to leave the Enterprise for a time, Picard is facing some sort of inquiry, and Beverly shows up to talk to him. Fair enough. But she gets him to open a bottle of wine, somehow, and then says that she'll make it "a night to remember". Now, Beverly does specialise in making provocative statements, but it does seem as if she's working a bit quickly, even for someone who had spontaneous flings with Odan and Ronin.
However, the line doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else could she mean? If all she's implying is "we'll stay up all night getting drunk," that's a pretty simplistic definition of "a night to remember," even by the standards of Starfleet Academy cadets.
It seems that the author is trying to suggest a relationship that is becoming more intimate without going to any time or trouble implying it. It comes out of nowehere, and goes nowehere. Everyone else is supposed to skim over it, while P/C shippers squeal "ooh, they slept together!". It strikes me as extremely sloppy work. And I know I shouldn't say it, but... although I couldn't write the whole novel... I could do better than that.
Perhaps she was just suggesting that they go to the ship's cinema and watch A Night To Remember?
Hey I wasn't squealing! But I'm chuffed that for once, someone agrees with one of my obscure observations.
Perhaps there's more of this in subsequent books? I confess I've not got through much of the series. The second book seemed to dissolve into lots of running around (I always give up when a thing drifts into chase mode). I'm prepared to be spoilt if anyway knows of further developments?
Perhaps there's more of this in subsequent books? I confess I've not got through much of the series. The second book seemed to dissolve into lots of running around (I always give up when a thing drifts into chase mode). I'm prepared to be spoilt if anyway knows of further developments?
I haven't read any of them myself. You could probably find those answers in the TrekLit forum, of course ...
^You're right about Trek-Lit forum, but that would make it too easy Besides, I'd end up buying a ton of books after reading all the reviews.
Besides, I'd end up buying a ton of books after reading all the reviews.Apparently the theme does continue through the series. Someone in the Trek Lit forum who just read A Time to Heal commented that "it turns Bev Crusher into a pining schoolgirl". Which is interesting.
Also, there is a book set to be released this year, titled Death in Winter, which is supposed to focus on the P/C relationship. Apparently Picard thinks that she's dead, and... who knows. The unfortunate thing is that it's being written by Michael Jan Friedman; I don't think much of his writing. Peter David would have been a much better choice, but he's probably very busy.
Also, there is a book set to be released this year, titled Death in Winter, which is supposed to focus on the P/C relationship. Apparently Picard thinks that she's dead, and... who knows. The unfortunate thing is that it's being written by Michael Jan Friedman; I don't think much of his writing. Peter David would have been a much better choice, but he's probably very busy.
^ Now I don't mind Friedman. Some of the Stargazer ones were quite good. No doubt (as ever) I'm viewing this from a does-Picard-have-much-to-do perspective. Oh and is-he-in-character generally helps my judgement too.
I quite like Freidman, though his work can be rather light-weight. David's obviously a P/C enthusiast, but he's somewhat erratic when it comes to keeping people in character.
^^^ Yes, you do have a point about Peter David. I think he gets away with his characterisation excesses in Q-Squared because he's set most of it in a parallel universe. So what he says goes. As for Friedman, I must admit that Reunion, which is reputedly the best of the Stargazer books, pretty much put me to sleep. I didn't finish listening to the audio book, even though it *was* read by Gates. 
Why is Gates reading Reunion? Don't they usually try to get someone er, more involved in the story?
There wasn't really any one character who that book focussed on. Maybe Picard, but Stewart perhaps didn't want to read one.
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