Orions

[Sisko_Ben]

Did Enterprise do a good job with them? ?I loved the whole 8 foot tall green monstrosities. What better for pirates than a bunch of hulking brutes with bolts and plates screwed to their bodies. The Slaver played by the "Big Show" was a mammoth. It was cool that T'Pol was nothing more than a little rag doll compared to him. I also liked the whole plot of the women being the ones in charge.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I realy likd all the piercings they had. That was a nice look.

 

[SFRabid]

Sleepless night. Crossed and burning eyes. In the "numb" zone this morning. I know it is going to be a bad day after spending a few moments trying to figure out why someone posted a pole about "Onions" where they ever saw a green, nine foot onion with bolts.

One thing I like about the Orion males is they look like ogres from many fantasy games. It gives you a feeling that the Orions may have once visited earth and been the basis for those historical fantasy creatures.

 

[jgdst]

I don't think Bound was a particularly strong episode to be honest... It did give a good idea how our attitudes are different now than they were in the 60s. Which is odd, cos that means attitudes regress 100 years down the line

I did enjoy their protrayal as dealing in the slave market. Big Show shaking T'Pol like a ragdoll is a classic

It would've been really interesting to see how the Orions evolved if Enterprise had continued. There could've been a whole new villain to explore instead of relying on the Klingons and Romulans. We could've also found out about the formation of the Orion Syndicate (I'm assuming they're related... if not, never mind ), so yeah, there was a lot of potential to go into a rarely seen area of the Trek universe. But it was not to be.

OHHHHH I'm always left with the what-ifs and what-might've-beens :'(

 

[commodore64]

Bound was a terrible episode, but the Orions are a cool concept, especially as shown in the Augment arc.

 

[Sisko_Ben]

Sleepless night. Crossed and burning eyes. In the "numb" zone this morning. I know it is going to be a bad day after spending a few moments trying to figure out why someone posted a pole about "Onions" where they ever saw a green, nine foot onion with bolts.

One thing I like about the Orion males is they look like ogres from many fantasy games. It gives you a feeling that the Orions may have once visited earth and been the basis for those historical fantasy creatures.

I never really thought about a comparison to Ogres but that fits pretty well.

Although little was known (in canon) about Orion males before Borderland, I wonder if the portrayal of the Orion males as supersized humanoids was the doing of Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. In their novel "Prime Directive" they portrayed Orion Slavers as being larger than life (being able to throw Sulu and Checkov around like rag dolls).

 

[Kalen Archer]

Bound wasn't a great episode, but I like the Orions in general.

 

[SFRabid]

Did you watch the end of the episode?

Edit: Hmmm. How did my post end up above the post I was replying to?

 

[miriel68]

Green Ogres unfortunately have been played just enough in Shrek and I while I personally like Shrek very much I don't think they fit into Enterprise universe very much. And Orions females... I can swallow some female-connected stereotypes in TOS, because it is a OLD show, but at the beginning of XXIth century?
Bound, IMO, was one of the worst episodes of the whole Enterprise, may be THE worst.

 

[Basill]

I vote kewl.

 

[Sisko_Ben]

Green Ogres unfortunately have been played just enough in Shrek and I while I personally like Shrek very much I don't think they fit into Enterprise universe very much. And Orions females... I can swallow some female-connected stereotypes in TOS, because it is a OLD show, but at the beginning of XXIth century?
Bound, IMO, was one of the worst episodes of the whole Enterprise, may be THE worst.

For slavers, crime lords, and pirates, they are perfect. For a species that have a culture or piracy and black market trade, individuals or starship crews being able to rule by fear, force and domination, having Orions as hulking mammoths are perfect. They are not soldiers in the sense of Klingons who have culturally built their society around the concept of the warrior and rules and traditions of honor but individuals with a voracious desire for fighting, much like a Blackbeard and an outlaw's sense of honor.

What the males can't accomplish with brute force, then the females who are the true power brokers accomplish with seduction and subterfuge. While it may be a stereotype, it makes sense for an advanced culture that devolved into decadence and debauchery, where force and cunning are the only means of advancing one's position.

 

[TrekTOSFan]

These guys are fierce.

http://trekweb.com/images/video/EntbShow.swf

 

[jgdst]

Bound, IMO, was one of the worst episodes of the whole Enterprise, may be THE worst.

I'm assuming TATV is considered beyond redemption at this point, and therefore not counted

 

[Katrine]

It would've been really interesting to see how the Orions evolved if Enterprise had continued. There could've been a whole new villain to explore instead of relying on the Klingons and Romulans. We could've also found out about the formation of the Orion Syndicate (I'm assuming they're related... if not, never mind ), so yeah, there was a lot of potential to go into a rarely seen area of the Trek universe. But it was not to be.

OHHHHH I'm always left with the what-ifs and what-might've-beens :'(

Very intriguing thought. Teeming with untold possiblilities! I like it!

 

[Red Ranger]

People,

I like the Orions. Too bad we didn't see more of them. Like some members of the animal species on Earth, they're dimorphic -- meaning one sex is much larger than the other. I wonder if there were ever any female freaks of nature -- ones as big as the males but also possessing the same pheromones! How scary would that be? A woman who could seduce and pound you! Yikes!

Red Ranger

 

[Pheon]

Yes. I felt they did a good turn especially since this was pretty much the first time we saw the Orions in person since TOS. They were relegated to the odd off hand mention throughout TNG, DS9, and VOY, so it was about time they explored them some more.

It made a lot of sense to make the male of the species uber-masculine, as the females are uber-feminine.

We could've also found out about the formation of the Orion Syndicate (I'm assuming they're related... if not, never mind ), so yeah, there was a lot of potential to go into a rarely seen area of the Trek universe. But it was not to be.

The Syndicate was mentioned in ‘Borderland’, the titular Borderland being the name for the area of space between the Syndicate and the Klingon Empire.

I always saw the Syndicate as being a loose affiliation of various factions of Orions, perhaps something a kin to the pirate ports that covered the Caribbean during the Golden Age of Piracy. Who eventually after being supplanted as a space power by the rising Federation somewhere down the line, evolved into the criminal underworld we saw in DS9.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Did Enterprise do a good job with them? ?I loved the whole 8 foot tall green monstrosities. What better for pirates than a bunch of hulking brutes with bolts and plates screwed to their bodies..

Tonight I picked up IDW's "Mirror Images" #2 comic - and the Mirror Universe male Orions in that are a clever combination between the pasty, helmeted TAS Orions males ("Pirates of Orion") and the green giants shown in ENT. Fun stuff!