Are there any novels that feature the original crew members that are killed in Caretaker?
Original Voyager crew?
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I'd recommend reading Keith R.A. DeCandido's The Brave and the Bold duology.
Yeah, that's about the only one I can think of. Were they in Jeri Taylor's book?
A fun way to track all their appearances is Memory Beta, eg.:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Veronica_Stadi
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Aaron_Cavit
Sadly that's not very helpful, as it doesn't list the book appearancers. And it has videogame references too.
(Just saying. Thanks for the link tho.)
(Just saying. Thanks for the link tho.)
The original crew of Voyager appear in the following novels, novellas and short stories. 
- The Badlands, Book Two (Part IV) by Susan Wright
- The aformentioned The Brave and the Bold, Book Two (Part Three) by Keith R.A. DeCandido
- Caretaker by Diane Carey
- Alternate timeline version in the aforementioned Myriad Universes: Echoes and Refractions - A Gutted World by Keith R.A. DeCandido
That's why I put the links here; I had not realised that they'd resurrected Stadi for a computer game until I checked her page for my previous reply.
It's a wiki. Incomplete, but growing. It depends on everyone contributing new factoids as they find them.
Do TBatB, and The Badlands contradict each other? From the descriptions I've read they both seem to cover the same basic time period leading up to the beginning of Caretaker.The original crew of Voyager appear in the following novels, novellas and short stories.
Some background on Aaron Cavit and Voyager's chief engineer, Alexander Honigsberg, is also included in Distant Shores: "Letting Go" by Keith R.A. DeCandido. Honigsberg also made appearance in The Brave and the Bold and the IDW comic, "Captain's Log: Jellico" when he served aboard the U.S.S. Cairo.
- The Badlands, Book Two (Part IV) by Susan Wright
- The aformentioned The Brave and the Bold, Book Two (Part Three) by Keith R.A. DeCandido
- Caretaker by Diane Carey
- Alternate timeline version in the aforementioned Myriad Universes: Echoes and Refractions - A Gutted World by Keith R.A. DeCandido
Actually, from what I remember, The Badlands contained some info which later episodes of the show contradicted. For example, The Badlands makes referance to Janeway having previous command(s) while in the show it was eventually stated Voyager was her first command.
^Actually Voyager itself is contradictory on that point. In "Revulsion," Janeway says, "The first time I met Tuvok he dressed me down in front of three Starfleet admirals for failing to observe proper tactical procedures during my first command." That was nine years before the episode, so six years before she took command of Voyager. (It's also consistent with Jeri Taylor's novels Mosaic and Pathways.) While in "Shattered," the "past" Janeway says at one point, "It doesn't seem like my first command is shaping up the way I expected."
Personally I'd be inclined to discount the latter. The events of "Shattered" played merry hell on the timeline, so maybe that past Janeway was from an alternate timeline. (It's also hard to reconcile The Brave and the Bold with "Shattered," because that episode says that Tuvok was already embedded among the Maquis before Voyager launched, not after as in the book.)
Personally I'd be inclined to discount the latter. The events of "Shattered" played merry hell on the timeline, so maybe that past Janeway was from an alternate timeline. (It's also hard to reconcile The Brave and the Bold with "Shattered," because that episode says that Tuvok was already embedded among the Maquis before Voyager launched, not after as in the book.)
Whenever there's a contradiction like that, I pick the elements I like the best. For instance, in the case of TBatB, I love that story (just recently finished it actually), and it completely takes precedence over an offhand remark in an episode I'm not a huge fan of.
In a similar way, I really enjoyed John Vornholt's Dominion War duology, and so I just discount the remarks made in Avatar that contradict it (although Perry's version of Picard and Ro's reunion is much more moving).
In a similar way, I really enjoyed John Vornholt's Dominion War duology, and so I just discount the remarks made in Avatar that contradict it (although Perry's version of Picard and Ro's reunion is much more moving).
Correction: it's actually "Relativity," not "Shattered," that has the conflict with The Brave and the Bold. So the alternate-timeline explanation doesn't necessarily work. But I've found that the conflict can be resolved if you assume that the ready room scene in the teaser of "Relativity" simply takes place a couple of weeks later than the bridge scenes that bracket it, on a separate visit by Admiral Patterson, and the VGR portion of TB&tB takes place between them. The connections between the dialogue on the bridge and that in the ready room are tenuous enough to make it work.
It could also mean that Janeway and Tuvok's encounter refers to her first time commanding a mission, squad, etc, while Voyager was Janeway's first command of a Starship.
I also remember the Badlands VOY story contradicting another story about the Cardassian Gul chasing them. In the Badlands story he committed suicide IIRC - didn't he show up later?
My memory is a bit hazy due to my not liking the Badlands duology that much
I'd prefer to discount that line from "Shattered," since there was never any other indication that Janeway was a novice commander as of "Caretaker." Except for that one line in a late episode, she was always portrayed as a seasoned veteran. Surely if she had been a novice captain, it would've come up at some point in the first season (for instance, Chakotay might've challenged her authority more, since technically he would've been a starship commander for longer than she had been). The fact that it didn't is enough to convince me that the line in "Shattered" is simply an error.
"Caretaker" was the final screen appearance of Gul Evek, so canonically his fate is unknown. He did appear subsequently in the literature, though (in A Stitch in Time).
If I'm remembering correctly, Evek's appearance in A Stitch in Time is rather vague, with Garak mentione that he thought Evek had been killed years earlier or something like that.
It is regrettable they never did anything more with Evek, though it is kind of cool to have a multi-series guest star.
It is regrettable they never did anything more with Evek, though it is kind of cool to have a multi-series guest star.
You're half right. Garak does write that he'd believed Evek "had been killed pursuing the Maquis in the Badlands," but that belief is clearly wrong because Evek is right there in the room with Garak and others and has a number of lines of dialogue (p. 362ff).
