Orci's ST3 or Beyond?
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I'm still waiting on your 2 cents on the matter, by the way
Apparently the rules were a bit different back then, and Ellison maintains some control over the Guardian of Forever.
I'm actually sort of surprised he never went full Kevin McClory over it.
Um... Yes?
Why wouldn't all of those things be possibilities?
Not to mention alternate universe George, cloned George, George who was secretly captured by something or other offscreen, alien impersonating george, or a time travel story which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with 'resetting' the universe (maybe even a story where George travels to the future, rather than Jim traveling to the past).
All of these things have been done in Trek plenty of times.
Oooh, I like this! My mind races with all the possibilities. Imagine two competing Trek movies in the same year like they had in 1983. Who could have played the other crew? This needs its own thread!
Indeed! I'm not 100% on the rules but I'm reasonaly (almost) sure Doctor Who still faces similar problems using the Daleks.
It's... It's not that bad off just yet. A big budget blockbuster slightly under performed during a year of general under-performance.
Yup. They are owned and are used under permission by/of the Terry Nation Estate.
No, it was rejected for a reason.
There's also no chance on any planet of this cast doing a straight to video movie
Exactly. It sounded crap. Reasonable fodder for trek fans but a total turn off for general audiences. That being said I thought beyond was the opposite of that and that's crashed if not completely burned.
I'm intrigued with Roberto Orci's pitch and don't necessarily agree it ends in the Kelvin timeline being undone. A story that tempts both Kirk and Spock with the prospect of having their pain taken away, has dramatic potential for sure. One is in favour. The other, despite standing to regain a whole civilisation, being against. Events conspire to put McCoy in the command decision maker (Kirk usually occupies in the triad), to end the feud between his friends. Whether going behind their backs during some key scenes, or a sudden act of sacrifice in the climax.
Then you've either arrived at the final act, where the future is much better off than it was. Or else you're in the middle act in an even worse situation, and the Enterprise crew really didn't recognise when they were actually well-off.
In-between the story has again managed to offer something for everybody who ever loved Star Trek. Beyond turned out great and fuck knows why it didn't do great box office. But yeah, if those were Orci's broad strokes, that's plenty TOS-ish right there... riffing off the greek tragedy of "City on the Edge..." It could've been a better 50th Anniversary celebration with a huge call-back to Star Trek 2009 and the Prime Universe, either way it might've ended.
Then you've either arrived at the final act, where the future is much better off than it was. Or else you're in the middle act in an even worse situation, and the Enterprise crew really didn't recognise when they were actually well-off.
In-between the story has again managed to offer something for everybody who ever loved Star Trek. Beyond turned out great and fuck knows why it didn't do great box office. But yeah, if those were Orci's broad strokes, that's plenty TOS-ish right there... riffing off the greek tragedy of "City on the Edge..." It could've been a better 50th Anniversary celebration with a huge call-back to Star Trek 2009 and the Prime Universe, either way it might've ended.
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No way Abrams and/or Orci and/or Kurtzman will do a Trek movie with less than $150 million budget.
