Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof should not Return.

[M'Sharak]

Now if it were Mudd, then that would be different because he was that type of villain. A movie with Mudd would be boring though, and using him as a character isn't the same as using Khan.

He got a mention at least. And a cool little ship.

Didn't someone point out that said cool little ship actually matches the profile of the one he had in his first TOS appearance?

I believe so.

 

[Therin of Andor]

A movie with Mudd would be boring though

Huh? A guest character you find "boring" makes a whole movie that hasn't even been written "boring"?

 

[Belz...]

They say in the commentary that were thinking of ending the '09 movie on a shot of the Botany Bay floating in space. That says to me that it wasn't a lack of ideas that led to Khan, but a plan all along to use TOS' most famous villain in the second movie.

Sure, but as Set said, it gives that impression.

 

[SeerSGB]

Adam Savage interviews Lindelof

Nothing earth shattering, just him talking about the process and his experiences in the industry.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Again, Khan is a character, not a story. Him being brought back is no different to Moriarty in various Sherlock Holmes adaptations. Joaquin Phoenix may be Lex Luthor in the Man of Steel sequel - is that due to a lack of ideas or simply them using the Superman mythology?

I don't think Khan is comparable to these recurring villains. He was a one-off who just happened to get a movie. He's not the Joker.

That's only because Trek hasn't been rebooted before. Khan, as villain of Trek's most popular (and, arguably, most important) movie, is an obvious choice to resurrect.

Khan got a three-episode tribute in Enterprise (where they even replicated Khan's death by having an injured Malik crawl across the bridge to the self-destruct controls) and at least 3 novels detailing his backstory.

Now if it were Mudd, then that would be different because he was that type of villain. A movie with Mudd would be boring though, and using him as a character isn't the same as using Khan.

He got a mention at least. And a cool little ship.

There's a chance that the 'Mudd' mentioned isn't a he, but a she..

 

[Belz...]

Yeah, and that makes no sense whatsoever. :P

 

[JWPlatt]

Warning for Bono; comments to PM.

What the...?

Is that name taboo here?

 

[Set Harth]

Yeah, and that makes no sense whatsoever. :P

Harry Mudd impregnating a Bajoran?

 

[M'Sharak]

Warning for Bono; comments to PM.

What the...?

Is that name taboo here?

Not only are you two days late, you're not commenting to PM.

Spoiler: That was—I say—

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Yeah, and that makes no sense whatsoever. :P

Harry Mudd impregnating a Bajoran?

He means Mudd being a woman this time around (in the comic books.)

 

[Set Harth]

It's Mudd's daughter, hence my response.

 

[JWPlatt]

Warning for Bono; comments to PM.

What the...?

Is that name taboo here?

Not only are you two days late, you're not commenting to PM.

Spoiler: That was—I say—

What is the deadline for posting a reply? Or in other words, what is the rule for how often we must visit here to make sure we don't reply too late? Yeah, if I haven't visited in a year, I understand a reply to a year-old thread might be a bit too necromantic. I'm just trying to figure out where you draw the line, like asking a woman how much I'd have to pay her to have sex with me. It's just haggling over the price.

 

[M'Sharak]

Still not a PM. Check your Inbox.

 

[BigJake]

like asking a woman how much I'd have to pay her to have sex with me. It's just haggling over the price.

Um... TMI?

 

[JWPlatt]

like asking a woman how much I'd have to pay her to have sex with me. It's just haggling over the price.

Um... TMI?

I was trying to relate how negotiations determine where lines are drawn in a humorous way. And I made it about "me" instead of "you" (the collective "you") so it would not be misinterpreted as some sort of insult. People are so sensitive anymore.

 

[Belz...]

It's Mudd's daughter, hence my response.

Oh, do you have a source for that ?

 

[BillJ]

It's Mudd's daughter, hence my response.

Oh, do you have a source for that ?

Non-canon, but I believe it comes from the Countdown to Darkness comic book story that leads into events of the movie.

 

[Therin of Andor]

It's Mudd's daughter, hence my response.

Oh, do you have a source for that ?

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mudd_(Bajoran)