Orci: improvements to engine room?

[SeerSGB]

They spent the money on stuff that mattered more.

Stuff like the Rura Penthe scenes that got cut completely.

Guess what - scenes that were part of the narrative were more important to get on film than the color of the wallpaper in engineering was - yep, even if they were eliminated from the final cut.

Do you know a thing about writing and editing films?

I would have rather had the Rura Penthe scenes--which gave us some back-story to go along with Nero and fleshed him out a little more--over the Benny Hill moment in "engineering" we got later.

Besides if they didn't have the moment to do a engineering set, why not just leave the set out all together and have the chase scene somewhere else on the ship.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Because JJ was perfectly happy with the beer brewery location. Remember: it was his movie.

 

[GNDN]

Hey!! The ship's way bigger now. Can't we have an engine room and a brewery on board???

 

[Jeyl]

Because JJ was perfectly happy with the beer brewery location. Remember: it was his movie.

It is his movie, but that does not mean we have to like every decision he made.

I for one stand by the crowd that is displeased with engineering being shot in a practical location like a brewery. I know folks like SFdebris like the idea of engineering being a more complex, complicated and somewhat dangerous looking place to be in, and I would agree that would be an interesting change. What I would like to see is an engineering designed to be that way. Design something that is complex and dangerous.

For example, take the engineering section of the Shadow Broker's ship from Mass Effect 2's DLC "Lair of the Shadow Broker".

Youtube Link

See? That's a pretty awesome, futuristic, complex, cramped and dangerous looking engineering section. I would totally buy into this.

 

[Cyke101]

Speaking for myself, I didn't notice the brewery in most scenes: the Kelvin evacuation, the Kirk/Sulu/Spock/Pike walk to the shuttle bay, the Inflated Kirk scenes, among others. For those I'd credit the hustle of the background actors, lighting, and the set decorations. But it seemed really lacking in the Kirk/Scotty chase, which brought the brewery forefront in my mind -- hence after that, the impression carried over to Scotty by the warp cores, that engineering really was a brewery.

In my mind, as long as the brewery is consistently upgraded the way those other scenes were, then reshooting there is fine by me.

 

[Butters]

I'm with the Brewery Naysayers. The engineering set on a Star Trek starship is a particular look that doesn't need changing.

They changed the shape of the ship, a bit (too much for my liking), but the iconic shape remained more or less.

They changed the bridge, a bit. No problem with that. They could have gone with some radical departure, like the command deck from the Galactica, but that would have been too much.
They could have changed the uniforms, or the transporter room. Spock could have been klingon, but these things weren't changed because they were fundamental to the basic familiarity of what star trek should feel like.
Engineering though. There was plenty of room to maneuver, plenty of artistic liberty to take, but the brewery fits neither the look and feel of the Enterprise, or the space within the hull its supposed to occupy. A huge lofty brewery within the compact interior of the Enterprise. Nah.

To me it just screams wrong. And I'm anything but a purist.

 

[F. King Daniel]

This Enterprise is much, much bigger than the old one. "Compact" certainy isn't a word that applies.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Compact?

I think they hold the ship dances there.

 

[GNDN]

I think they hold the ship dances there.

At least they always had beer on tap! What d'ya think Kirk was hitting Khan with anyway?

 

[M'Sharak]

I think they hold the ship dances there.

At least they always had beer on tap! What d'ya think Kirk was hitting Khan with anyway?

23rd-century Starfleet-issue bung wrench?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Heh, I just rewatched "In a Mirror, Darkly", and couldn't help but notice the engineering section of the Consitution-class USS Defiant (lost in "The Tholian Web") is packed with countless pipes. No tanks, but lots of pipes. It looks like guttering painted in bright primary colours.

Take away the walls and floors and it'd look kinda like.... oh, I dunno... a brewery?

 

[nightwind1]

Hey!! The ship's way bigger now. Can't we have an engine room and a brewery on board???

Well, I always figured Scotty had a shipboard still somewhere, but I never figured it was that big.

 

[GNDN]

Hey!! The ship's way bigger now. Can't we have an engine room and a brewery on board???

Well, I always figured Scotty had a shipboard still somewhere, but I never figured it was that big.

Isn't the still behind the grating of the TOS engine room?