Opening shot on The Cage

[Cheapjack]

I don't know whether I've asked this before on this Forum, but have they remastered 'The Cage'?

You know the opening shot, where they zoom in on the bridge?

Have they redone that?

It would be the most difficult and the most impressive to redo. It dates the original so much! If they could redo it, it would really reboot TOS!

I bet that they haven't bothered.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5pvlpVnTLc

TGT

 

[FalTorPan]

That is one impressive "upgrade!" I'm more than slightly partial to the original visual effects, but that new version of the shot is very, very cool.

 

[Alyssa]

really cool that they could do that!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GreenBlood]

Like'n it.

 

[RookieBatman]

That is cool; I've always loved that shot (vainly hoping they might do a variation in the new movie, but I won't hold my breath). They should be showing The Cage itself remastered soon.

 

[Cheapjack]

Agreed! It is impressive. I didn't think that they would bother.I'd read that it was very difficult to do in the sixties, as it was a moving shot.

 

[N-121973]

Just out of curiousity, how much more work is required on the Cage given that a lot of it has already been covered on the Menagerie. Also if they go beyond what they did with that episode. in the interests of consistency, shouldn't they re revisit the Menagerie?

 

[Noname Given]

N-121973 said:
Just out of curiousity, how much more work is required on the Cage given that a lot of it has already been covered on the Menagerie. Also if they go beyond what they did with that episode. in the interests of consistency, shouldn't they re revisit the Menagerie?

I have a feeling that they saved what they did for The Menagerie; and will just do whatever else is needed for The Cage. It's also possible they did all 3 episodes at the same time (as The Cage is not that effects heavy when it comes to the model opticals that they are replacing); but just held The Cage for the Season 2 syndication package.

 

[Crewman47]

I'm sure it's been discussed to death but isn't the Turbolift supposed to match up with the part that attaches to the back of the Bridge. Couldn't they have altered the shot to match it up?

 

[Ziz]

Crewman47 said:
I'm sure it's been discussed to death but isn't the Turbolift supposed to match up with the part that attaches to the back of the Bridge. Couldn't they have altered the shot to match it up?

Dude, you have NO idea of the size of the can of worms you just opened...

If you want a complete - as in more than you would ever need to know - dissertation on this, poke around the Trek Art forum for threads by Captain Robert April. Somewhere in there are all kinds of debates on both sides of the issue.

 

[Trekker4747]

Dude, you have NO idea of the size of the can of worms you just opened...

A CAN of worms?

More like an entire friggin SILO of worms.

Personaly, I think they should've "fixed" this with TOS-R and just moved the damn bump on the bridge dome or nixed it altogether.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Crewman47 said:
I'm sure it's been discussed to death but isn't the Turbolift supposed to match up with the part that attaches to the back of the Bridge. Couldn't they have altered the shot to match it up?

Not without really changing the composition of the shot, which they evidently chose not to do.

Yes, the turbolift is in the very back of the bridge, and the bridge itself is offset 36 degrees (more or less, given that the sections of the set were somewhat less than that). Some folks don't like that, so there's this big trekkie "controversy" about it.

 

[Outpost4]

NO! NO! NO! Mmmmaaaahhhh!

I think I'm going to have a turbo-fit!

 

[skylark]

Some fans feel it is an unforgivable error that the turbolift "bump" on the Enterprise model doesn't line up with the turbolift door on the bridge. Others, like me, are comfortable with the idea that the turbolift shifts to the side just before the door opens.

There are all kinds of "technical" errors with shapes and sizes if you study the model and the set too closely. (I mean, it's fun, but only to a point...)

 

[Plum]

The opening shot by the CBS CGI Team is frackin' awesome.

 

[Hambone]

skylark said:
Some fans feel it is an unforgivable error that the turbolift "bump" on the Enterprise model doesn't line up with the turbolift door on the bridge. Others, like me, are comfortable with the idea that the turbolift shifts to the side just before the door opens.

I look at it this way, too. Based on the activity in certain episodes ("Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" comes to mind) when a character leaves the bridge and someone else follows him seconds later, there would almost have to be a "reserve" or "pending" turbolift car waiting in the wings. That's what I perceive the "bump" as being. But I won't lose any sleep over it.

 

[Outpost4]

You know, this would help solve the "one exit from the bridge" dilema. I like it. The only problem is you'd then need even more room, now for a second turbolift car in waiting. I'd like to see someone try and work this out, space-wise, within the model.

 

[MGagen]

The new CGI shot is truly a work of art. And the idea of the turbolift shifting into position inside the dome is fine -- until you try to blueprint it. Then you come up against the intractable scale issue and the cold, hard fact that the bridge can fit into that dome at only one angle...

M.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Trekker4747 said:

Dude, you have NO idea of the size of the can of worms you just opened...

A CAN of worms?

More like an entire friggin SILO of worms.

Dune-sized worms.