Opening credits question

[Mr. Laser Beam]

All those things we see happening to Cerritos in the opening credits...all that is just supposed to be a metaphor, isn't it?

Because Memory Alpha seems to think that scene where Romulan and Borg ships are fighting each other was a real event.

 

[Tosk]

A metaphor for what?

 

[Dukhat]

If it’s on screen, it’s canon.








I kid. I think someone’s taking things a little
too seriously over at MA.

 

[Timo]

Of course, we have already learned that the classic opening speech by Shatner or Stewart is in fact the Starfleet Captain's Oath, as absolutely nonsensical as that is... (And also a Cochrane quote, which makes a bit more sense.)

So there's a high risk of credits being for real. Perhaps we shall soon learn that Captain Kirk's official alias while undercover on primitive planets was William Shatner, or that Starfleeters are obligated to change their name while enrolling or enlisting, and Mariner was born Tawny Newsome?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[F. King Daniel]

Does this mean the blue asteroid from DS9 is canon, too?

And I totally buy the Cerritos coming across a Romulan/Borg battle and getting the F outta there at warp 9.

 

[Michael]

I'm not sure I understand. Why wouldn't those be “real” events?

 

[Trekker4747]

Multiple Borg Cubes attacking in the BQ seems like an event there's no surviving.

 

[Timo]

And? The Borg are credited with victories in ST:FC: they advance, Starfleet retreats. Earth is still there, as is the bulk of the Federation. Losing to the Borg isn't terminally fatal for real. Even if it hurts.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tuskin38]

All those things we see happening to Cerritos in the opening credits...all that is just supposed to be a metaphor, isn't it?

Because Memory Alpha seems to think that scene where Romulan and Borg ships are fighting each other was a real event.

Memory-Alpha does that with all the show openings.

Well except Picard and Discovery since those are heavily stylized.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

All those things we see happening to Cerritos in the opening credits...all that is just supposed to be a metaphor, isn't it?

I figured they're real events, but what happens to the Cerritos I take to be tongue in cheek -- falling into the black hole, engines knocked out by scraping an asteroid, etc... The message is: "Ach -- I'm bad at this!" (in the voice of Groundskeeper Willie).

Because Memory Alpha seems to think that scene where Romulan and Borg ships are fighting each other was a real event.

Presumably this is where the Romulans got the Artifact in Picard?

 

[Timo]

As far as we can tell, the Borg are equal opportunity pillagers. They went for Romulans in "The Neutral Zone"; they may have gone for them before and after, too. And done the same thing with Klingons, and perhaps Cardassians and Breen and whatnot, too.

The timing with the Cerritos could neatly fit the PIC reference, though. I can't see the Romulans winning that round, but I could see the Borg moving on after the engagement, and then having one of theirs fall for the corrupting effect of having assimilated a True Believer, after which the Romulans could claim the wreckage as shown.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[EyalM]

If the opening credits are canon, then here are giant letters spelling "STAR TREK" floating out there?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm not sure I understand. Why wouldn't those be “real” events?

Because a wacky, zany show like this would be just the type to intentionally go over the top - even in the credits.

Meaning, they're like "Oh, woe is us, let's show us getting our asses kicked over and over even if it didn't happen".

 

[BillJ]

Multiple Borg Cubes attacking in the BQ seems like an event there's no surviving.

That is why the Cerritos ran away while there were still plenty of Romulans to keep the Borg busy.

 

[The Old Mixer]

If the opening credits are canon, then here are giant letters spelling "STAR TREK" floating out there?

Exactly what I was thinking. Taking the opening credit scenes as in-continuity events is treading dangerously close to "Where's the music coming from?" and "Why are giant words appearing in space?" territory.

 

[Timo]

...Which is why it's so disturbing to learn that "Space!! The Final Front-Ear!!" is in fact an in-universe thing.

So far, we haven't learned that the theme music would be the Starfleet Anthem (and we have learned it's not the UFP one), but we can't rest assured of this never happening.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[The Wormhole]

The TMP/TNG theme exists in universe. We heard Boimler humming it in Temporal Edict.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

There's no reason why the events cannot have occurred or could not occur at some point during the starship's adventures.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yeah, I already accept the space monster sucking on the nacelle as part of my head canon anyway.

 

[DaveyNY]

Yeah, I already accept the space monster sucking on the nacelle as part of my head canon anyway.

Wellll....
The Enterprise-D did have that giant baby alien suckeling on it's backbone for almost half an episode.
(Galaxy's Child")