one thing that annoys me . . .

[Qonos]

The thing that annoys me the most is Kirk looking like he's about twelve.

Exaggerate much...

No, I did not restate what you said - in fact, I specifically said the opposite.

What you are describing is how Paramount is the sole owner of intellectual property rights as defined under current US law, which is what gives that company the ability to produce material with the brand name Star Trek, and derive profit from it. This is a very specific, legalistic, and limited definiton of the word "own".

From dictionary.com

own - verb

1.to have or hold as one's own; possess.
2.to acknowledge or admit: to own a fault.
3.to acknowledge as one's own; recognize as having full claim, authority, power, dominion, etc.:

The more philosophical form of "own" is #1. The legalistic form of "own" is the sub-phrase of #3.

To own any work of imagination means more than who is allowed to make money from it.

Yet we still don't own it in any tangible way. Trek isn't OUR'S. It was shown to us and we may observe it. We may take a copy of it and keep it with us, but in no way are we allowed to say THIS is Trek and this is Not Trek, although you may think other wise. The only people allowed to determing Canonisity of the work in question are the people who are making it or have recived the go ahead to make it. We OWN the culture that was spawned by Star Trek. We own the uniquness of being TREK Fans, but we don't OWN Star Trek itself in any way shape or form.

So continue to OWN your own way of appreciating trek, go to your gatherings and your conventions. Look at your DVD's and VHS Tapes. Wear your TOS uniform as a set of pajama's... That part of Trek is the part you own. The story and the ability to produce said story belong to Paramount, and right now only JJ and his team have the go ahead produce a new theatrical version of Trek.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

If you withhold your movie dollars, the only thing you will accomplish is to ensure that there may not be more movies. Even this won't matter if they get enough non-fans to pay for tickets and they like what they see.

Exactly so.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I think the lesson to be learned here is, yes, we are going to get raped by J.J. Abrams, but maybe that won't be such a bad thing. Maybe we'll all thank him for raping us, after the fact.

People were wondering what 'message' Star Trek XI is going to have. Maybe this is the long-awaited pro-rape movie.

 

[Qonos]

I think the lesson to be learned here is, yes, we are going to get raped by J.J. Abrams, but maybe that won't be such a bad thing. Maybe we'll all thank him for raping us, after the fact.

People were wondering what 'message' Star Trek XI is going to have. Maybe this is the long-awaited pro-rape movie.

Well they say you can't rape the willing....

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I think the lesson to be learned here is, yes, we are going to get raped by J.J. Abrams, but maybe that won't be such a bad thing. Maybe we'll all thank him for raping us, after the fact.

People were wondering what 'message' Star Trek XI is going to have. Maybe this is the long-awaited pro-rape movie.

Well they say you can't rape the willing....

Oh, we'll go kicking and screaming every step of the way.

Only upon reflection -- sometime between Star Trek XI and Star Trek XII -- will we realize that we liked it. By that time, it will be a full-fledged relationship.

Later, J.J. will dump us sometime between Star Trek XII and Star Trek XIII, and we'll beg him not to leave.

We'll be knee-deep in Battered Trekkie Syndrome by then. Oh, the codependence. When will it end?

 

[Captain Robert April]

I think the lesson to be learned here is, yes, we are going to get raped by J.J. Abrams, but maybe that won't be such a bad thing. Maybe we'll all thank him for raping us, after the fact.

People were wondering what 'message' Star Trek XI is going to have. Maybe this is the long-awaited pro-rape movie.

Well they say you can't rape the willing....

Oh, we'll go kicking and screaming every step of the way.

Only upon reflection -- sometime between Star Trek XI and Star Trek XII -- will we realize that we liked it. By that time, it will be a full-fledged relationship.

Later, J.J. will dump us sometime between Star Trek XII and Star Trek XIII, and we'll beg him not to leave.

We'll be knee-deep in Battered Trekkie Syndrome by then. Oh, the codependence. When will it end?

Looking at some of the responses around here of folks creaming their jeans over this latest slap to the face, I'd say some have been suffering from Battered Trekkie Syndrome for a while now.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Well they say you can't rape the willing....

Oh, we'll go kicking and screaming every step of the way.

Only upon reflection -- sometime between Star Trek XI and Star Trek XII -- will we realize that we liked it. By that time, it will be a full-fledged relationship.

Later, J.J. will dump us sometime between Star Trek XII and Star Trek XIII, and we'll beg him not to leave.

We'll be knee-deep in Battered Trekkie Syndrome by then. Oh, the codependence. When will it end?

Looking at some of the responses around here of folks creaming their jeans over this latest slap to the face, I'd say some have been suffering from Battered Trekkie Syndrome for a while now.

See?

I knew we could reach a consensus.

I like to reach across the aisle.

Or reach around it, anyway.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Long before TrekBBS came into being, back on the old GEnie network, I once received a private communication from a wise moderator on the SFRT. It consisted of one sentence:

"Sit down. You're in my line of fire."

I'm going to try to live by that injunction for the nonce. Whatever the hell it means.