Get back to me when you have an analogy that has a million waffles and a million slices of cake, and also requires that even if all you need is one waffle or one slice, you must take the other million with you wherever you go.
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Get back to me when you have an analogy that has a million waffles and a million slices of cake, and also requires that even if all you need is one waffle or one slice, you must take the other million with you wherever you go.
All I was saying was that your analogy didn't work. You won't find anything comparable to rationalize someone making a million doses of an insanely dangerous black hole creating substance at once, much less carrying that whole amount made around with them everywhere they go.
It's mad that the jellyfish had any red matter on board really, one would have thought it would have been sent in via a probe. After all, there would only be one chance to stop a FTL supernova. If that didn't work the probe would be consumed. As such, it's bonkers that Spock or the Narada were anywhere near any kind of black hole wormhole.
I would have made Nero and his crew Romulans, like it said they were in the movie. Honestly, they didn't look a thing like Romulans, except that they had somewhat pointy ears. There was almost none of that Romulan superiority that they wear like a fine coat, except for that one line by that dude before he totally dies. I can see them being maybe a little different in attitude (their planet and most everyone they loved were dead, after all), but not suddenly turned into poor human action-movie villains. Nero especially looks like any crazed (and stupid) bad guy from any action movie in the last ten years. And his ship looked like a generic evil ship, not anything remotely like a Romulan one (or any other Trek ship that I can think of). I know the Romulans like big ships and all, but one THAT big, with all the bottomless pits...(it didn't look quite that big on the outside, anyways).
That, and the tatoos. I didn't even know they were supposed to be Romulans until it was mentioned.
That, and the tatoos. I didn't even know they were supposed to be Romulans until it was mentioned.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
The romulans were disappointing to you hmm that's fascinating view on it they should have had a villian with a little more motivation don't you agree or was it fine the way it was.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
But we've only dealt witht he uppity high-class Romulan military in all trek before now. They are a bunch of arrogrant jerks.
The average Romulan citizen may just be a Vulcan with a bad attitude. We haven't had much (or any) contact with Romulan lower class.
The average Romulan citizen may just be a Vulcan with a bad attitude. We haven't had much (or any) contact with Romulan lower class.
One change you say? Gaila should have been bare breasted in every scene she appeared in. 
Withers
Captain
That's the bummer of so many films I've seen over the past few years; the villains just suck hot air. I always cheer for the villains (thank Disney; they always made the bad guys infinitely cooler than the supposed heroes) but in movies where an obvious action oriented antagonist exists? Yawn. It's almost like they go out of their way to ensure the hero is kept the most interesting thing in the films even if the hero isn't very interesting (look at the last few James Bond movies Pierce did.)
-Withers-
I agree, the villains needed changing to be most definitely Romulan, they seemed too human. Not sure what they needed to do to make them more like Romulans, but they could have been any set of these week's Rubber Forehead Aliens.
The Narada needs more design similarity to previous ships we've seen too, perhaps instead of 'tentacles' we could have 'wings' so that you have them forward swept with large 'feathers', so you can still have the predatory enveloping shape that the Space Squid has while still hinting at the Romulan aesthetic for birds of prey. Hell eve some of those weird noises we heard from the Narada were somewhat birdlike.
The Narada needs more design similarity to previous ships we've seen too, perhaps instead of 'tentacles' we could have 'wings' so that you have them forward swept with large 'feathers', so you can still have the predatory enveloping shape that the Space Squid has while still hinting at the Romulan aesthetic for birds of prey. Hell eve some of those weird noises we heard from the Narada were somewhat birdlike.
Reset.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
To do what? Take over Battlefield Earth's place on the worst list?
Have the people behind Master & Commander make it. And make it like Master & Commander.
Angelina Jolie as Number One.
Yellow miniskirt.
Enough said.
Yellow miniskirt.
Enough said.
Make Kirk into less of a douchebag, including making his solution to the Kobayashi Maru be actually plausible (equipment failure on one of the Klingon ships or something that gives him a slight edge over the Klingons).
Yeah, you could have had some respect for Kirk if he'd actually used skill to defeat the Klingons. I'm ambivalent. As it was written, it was clear that he wasn't trying to beat the test, he was trying to prove a point and he can't do that unless he makes it really obvious that he cheated. It would have been nice to see him use some ingenuity in reprogramming though.
Make it clearly an AU but still not too different from the original timeline/universe, so no old Spock or any mention of the events in the original timeline/universe. It would be better if there was no question of it being an an altered timeline instead of an AU. AUs are canonical in Trek, after all. The plot wouldn't have to change a lot.
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