Ingrid got out when Hans tried to put Elsa in. We don't know yet how Elsa ultimately got in.
Caught up now? Good.
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Ingrid got out when Hans tried to put Elsa in. We don't know yet how Elsa ultimately got in.
Caught up now? Good.
Am I the only one who thinks Gerda is truly a gigantic-ass moron?
Agreed. Are they really trying to sell us on this whole Robin/Regina thing? Over Robin and Marian? Sorry, no, I don't care how cute they were last season there's no way I'm rooting for Robin and Marian to break up. Even with (conveniently) basically seeing bupkiss of Marian!
Just watched the last episode- (ABC was slow to drop it to Amazon for streaming).
Ingrid is a masterful manipulator- like most everything she said had an element of truth and when events did proceed Emma interpreted them along the lines set forth. Some people were upset with the way Snow clutched her baby after Emma accidentally boiled the formula but what mother wouldn't? Babies can be killed with less heat than it takes to boil a fluid which was just done a moment before.
Robin has the agonized puppy love expression down pat- I wonder if he was hired because his face works so well with that..., anyway is was nice to see him man up and follow his heart. Personally I never did care much for Marion, most of what was supposed to make her appeal was either off camera or part of the general mythos.
I do not consider Gold to be a 'villain' as per the Ice Queen, he just has his own agenda. I do not think it is world conquest either, but IMO he did not deny that because she was on the verge of providing him with that much needed information. The Knife which can control him must be a terrible frustration and danger. The Wicked Witch showed him how vulnerable he truly was when somebody got there hands on it and I do not think he could ever feel at peace knowing it can happen again- that is why he is so hesitant to give Belle that gift. It is not because he does not trust her, even when she did pull it on him that one time, but that he knows how easy it would be for someone else to take it from her since everyone knows she has it.
Ingrid is a masterful manipulator- like most everything she said had an element of truth and when events did proceed Emma interpreted them along the lines set forth. Some people were upset with the way Snow clutched her baby after Emma accidentally boiled the formula but what mother wouldn't? Babies can be killed with less heat than it takes to boil a fluid which was just done a moment before.
Robin has the agonized puppy love expression down pat- I wonder if he was hired because his face works so well with that..., anyway is was nice to see him man up and follow his heart. Personally I never did care much for Marion, most of what was supposed to make her appeal was either off camera or part of the general mythos.
I do not consider Gold to be a 'villain' as per the Ice Queen, he just has his own agenda. I do not think it is world conquest either, but IMO he did not deny that because she was on the verge of providing him with that much needed information. The Knife which can control him must be a terrible frustration and danger. The Wicked Witch showed him how vulnerable he truly was when somebody got there hands on it and I do not think he could ever feel at peace knowing it can happen again- that is why he is so hesitant to give Belle that gift. It is not because he does not trust her, even when she did pull it on him that one time, but that he knows how easy it would be for someone else to take it from her since everyone knows she has it.
This is borderline off-topic, but I'd like some insight from the professional people here. I'm getting some significant push-back for advocating that an OUaT wiki follow common practice relative to the way that 2-hour episodes are generally treated and note that next week's episode "Smash the Mirror" will most likely constitute episodes 4x08 and 4x09 by the time everything is said and done, and I'm not sure what else I can do at this point.
I think I remember Baelfire making one or two references to being 200 years old, or something like that. So that should give us a pretty good idea of the timeline.
I really enjoyed this episode. That was some pretty good manipulation on the part of the Snow Queen. It did seem pretty clear to me from the moment they caught her that she was up to something, and it worked out pretty well for her.
The flashbacks were pretty interesting. I thought it gave us a bit of an idea how things could have played out with Elsa, if it weren't for Anna.
I've seen Frozen. But wrecking Ingrid/Sarah's life based on a false accusation takes it to a new level.
No doubt, but the only thing that surprises me is that up till this ep I thought her husband was the bigger idiot. This backstory obviously proves otherwise.
I'm not sure I understand the problem. It's two episodes that are being aired in a block. It's not a movie. Yes, it would be 4x08 and 4x09, both airing on the same date. What's the issue?
^ The people who are pushing back against me don't believe that it should be treated as two episodes when it's being aired as one, even though that's most likely what will be happening and is fairly common practice when it comes to "feature-length" episodes (which is what it is).
"Fairly common practice" - this could be an exception. I would wait until the episode airs - there's usually an indication that it's two episodes in one, rather than one long episode. Or find some way to ask the producers.
^The confusion is probably of a result of Adam Horowitz announcing that this extra hour is in addition to the 22 episodes they already had planned. That's leading a lot of people (including Wikipedia, apparently) to mark the entire 2-hour episode as just 4-08 rather than 4-08 and 4-09. Everybody already had the production numbers listed as 4-01 through 4-22, and marking the second half of this episode as 4-09 could skew all the latter numbers to end at 4-23. It's hard to get people to change the episode "Fall" from 4-09 to 4-10 after they'll already marked them on their websites, and we don't know how the production has handled the changing situation.
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epguides.com has it listed as two episodes -
http://epguides.com/onceuponatime/
TV Guide has it listed as two episodes -
8 - http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/once-upon-a-time-2014/episode-8-season-4/smash-the-mirror/319533
9 - http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/once-upon-a-time-2014/episode-9-season-4/smash-the-mirror/319533
TV Guide gets their listings directly from the networks.
Elizabeth Mitchell just conducted an interview with TVLine where she all but confirmed that it's two episodes airing as one, but I have my doubts that this is going to have any effect on those on that Wiki, particularly since they're relying on Adam having tweeted out things about the production code for "Fall" (the episode airing a week from this Sunday) being 409 and the mid-winter finale being episode 4x12 as evidence for why it shouldn't be treated as two episodes being initially aired as one.
The epguides.com and TV Guide listings might help my cause, but we'll see.
The epguides.com and TV Guide listings might help my cause, but we'll see.
Does it really matter what they are called?- for me two singles or one double length works out to be the same.
I just hope they make use of it and move the story along a bit faster.
I just hope they make use of it and move the story along a bit faster.
And cue the latest objection from the Wiki community:
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