On Trump Era Politics...

[Nakita Akita]

No, you were baiting and I didn’t fall for it. I’ve seen your posts, you don’t argue in good faith and aren’t worth my time. It doesn’t prove the validity of your beliefs, if anything they prove how faulty they are since you have to use tricks to make them seem valid.

I'm not baiting.
I stated that for me, I'm not noticing much difference between Obama era stuff and Trump era stuff.
Anything! Not excessively sudden higher prices, which is a very important aspect in most people's lives, personally I don't see anything different.
I just wanted to know for you what has changed so much in past 3 years where you would want to move to a different country.
And if you did move, which country do you deem better?
I used to want to move to Scotland.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I'm not baiting.
I stated that for me, I'm not noticing much difference between Obama era stuff and Trump era stuff.
Anything! Not excessively sudden higher prices, which is a very important aspect in most people's lives, personally I don't see anything different.
I just wanted to know for you what has changed so much in past 3 years where you would want to move to a different country.
And if you did move, which country do you deem better?
I used to want to move to Scotland.

You must be a very unaware person then.

 

[Nakita Akita]

You must be a very unaware person then.

You still didn't give any examples.
Calling me "unaware" isn't really a response. I'm sure it could be different in different parts of the country.
Can you please explain?

 

[BillJ]

White men are not the evil creatures you seem to think they are and I'm tired of you lumping us all in as if we're one thing. Maybe if you weren't so full of hate and anger all the damn time you'd see that.

Why don't you go try and live in Afghanistan or some other countries where white folks aren't as welcomed? Maybe then you could get some idea of what some folks actually go through when they're accosted for simple things like walking down the street.

Empathy isn't that hard of a skill to develop and use. Heck, I know you have had some trouble with, I believe, Cerebral Palsy. Which is why I don't unload on you nearly as much as you really deserve. I understand you have issues that can slant how you see the world and other folks.

 

[Awesome Possum]

You still didn't give any examples.
Calling me "unaware" isn't really a response. I'm sure it could be different in different parts of the country.
Can you please explain?

Again, I’ve seen how you “debate”. I’m not playing your games.

 

[Nakita Akita]

Again, I’ve seen how you “debate”. I’m not playing your games.

Thank you.
Have a nice day.

 

[BillJ]

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[Maurice]

Climate change denial is just fucking stupid. Here's why.

Back when the Ozone Hole was a big thing and there were deniers even Ronald Reagan could be made to see that inaction on a potential disaster was foolish, and the way he swayed people to support action...

Many scientists thought the ozone layer was shrinking. There were doubters, but everyone agreed that if it happened, the result would be a catastrophe. Under these circumstances, President Ronald Reagan thought it best not to argue too much with the doubters but include them in the provision of an insurance policy. With the very real potential for serious harm, U.S. industry turned on its entrepreneurial juices, and the Du Pont company developed a set of replacements for the chemicals implicated in the problem along a reasonable time frame and at a reasonable cost. It came up with something that could be done then — not some aspirational plan for 2050.

Source: George Schultz (LINK)​

And climate change is potentially even more catastrophic than the ozone danger.

Even if the science were wrong (it doesn't appear to be), what possible downside is there to lowering our pollution and emission levels? Cleaner air and water? What possible benefit do we get out of polluting at current and projected rates? I'll tell you: the only benefits are financial to the oil companies and other polluters interested only in their bottom lines, and for consumers who only care about how much goods cost.

That's dangerously selfish thinking all the way around and that is the problem.

 

[Marynator]

You still didn't give any examples.
Calling me "unaware" isn't really a response. I'm sure it could be different in different parts of the country.
Can you please explain?

I feel that's like asking her to prove racism or sexism exists ... just asking for that is a sign of either being completely unaware or something much worse. And it's lose-lose for her, because she gets trapped in a debate about even acknowledging her suffering, or she just gets written off like you're doing. Especially when you've shown before a complete lack of sensitivity and respect for transgender marginalization.

If you're really interested in broadening your understanding, you can google transgender issues and learn how things are going ... why shouls she be expected to do your work for you? Especially when you're likely not being honest?

 

[BillJ]

Even if the science were wrong (it doesn't appear to be), what possible downside is there to lowering our pollution and emission levels? Cleaner air and water?

Fuck clean air and water. There's coal to burn!

 

[Nakita Akita]

I feel that's like asking her to prove racism or sexism exists ... just asking for that is a sign of either being completely unaware or something much worse. And it's lose-lose for her, because she gets trapped in a debate about even acknowledging her suffering, or she just gets written off like you're doing. Especially when you've shown before a complete lack of sensitivity and respect for transgender marginalization.

If you're really interested in broadening your understanding, you can google transgender issues and learn how things are going ... why shouls she be expected to do your work for you? Especially when you're likely not being honest?

Thank you.
Have a nice day.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I'm closing this down because it's devolved into a lot of personal sniping rather than discussion of the issues themselves, though some are making an effort. Sorry to the OP, as they seemed to want a genuine dialogue about their concerns.