On page one; Legacy

[RobertScorpio]

Pretend it is the 30th century. The Federation is alive and well, and just humming along. First year cadets sit down for their first history class...which of our starring Captains, Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer, would be the greatest historic figure among the other four? And...why.

Robert
Scorpio

 

[RobertScorpio]

Pretend it is the 30th century. The Federation is alive and well, and just humming along. First year cadets sit down for their first history class...which of our starring Captains, Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer, would be the greatest historic figure among the other four? And...why.

Robert
Scorpio

I think, a thousand years after the events of Nemesis, meaning post TNG Trek, historians in the 35th Century would probably say something to the affect "Captain Kirk stretched the frontiers of space, and those who followed, like Jean-Luc Picard, inspired by Kirk, took the dream of exploration even further."

I don't think Janeway-Sisko-Archer would get a mention. Sisko might, in some other chapter about the Dominion war, and Janeway would in a chapter about exploration in the Gamma Quadrant. But I think only Kirk, and maybe Picard, would be mentioned in terms of Legacy.

What do you all think??

Robert
Scorpio

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

Its really hard to say who future historians might latch onto or how they might view certain people. With Kirk saving the Earth from V'ger and the Whale probe its hard to see him not get a mention, but those things aside Bob Wesley might be remembered as the greatest explorer of the 23rd Century.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Its really hard to say who future historians might latch onto or how they might view certain people. With Kirk saving the Earth from V'ger and the Whale probe its hard to see him not get a mention, but those things aside Bob Wesley might be remembered as the greatest explorer of the 23rd Century.

It would be cool to see such a history book, 1000 years after the events of TNG trek. They'll never do it, but would be cool.!

Rob

 

[Deks]

Archer himself, not to mention Janeway were directly responsible for saving the Federation and Earth on numerous occasions.
Somehow I think they wouldn't be left out.
:-)

 

[Kadratis]

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<snip> ..and Janeway would in a chapter about exploration in the Gamma Quadrant.</snip>

<snip>What do you all think??</snip>

I think somebody has to brush up on their Trek.

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

Archer himself, not to mention Janeway were directly responsible for saving the Federation and Earth on numerous occasions.
Somehow I think they wouldn't be left out.
:-)

I would hope little things like that wouldn't get left out! *L* And Archer would surely be included for his role in the formation of the Ccoalition and later Federation of Planets.

 

[Mr. Fergy]

^ I could't agree any more.

 

[Timo]

...So, which of the military leaders from a thousand years ago are the most famous among today's military students?

Can any of them name even one?

Year 1008 and its vicinity were as violent as any, but military leaders don't rank high among the historical figures. Lucky Leif Eirickson, a virtual nobody, is remembered for his unlikely adventures, while his fellow Vikings with actual leadership merits (say, from Battle of Svolder) get forgotten. What are we taught about the Battle of Peshawar? What relevancy do the petty and inane squabbles of a thousand years ago have on the education of today's military leaders? Would any of them be viewed with approval?

Granted that storing and distribution of information in 1008 AD was poor, and it's not perfected even in 2008 AD, whereas historical records in both 2378 and 3378 could be as complete as one can imagine. But still, the odds are that the cadets from 3378 would be able to name nobody else but the famous Wesley Crusher or the infamous Kivas Fajo from the late 24th century.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Cicero]

^ Simultaneously, we quite well remember several important persons from Greek and Roman times - Alexander, for instance, or Julius Caesar, Pompey, Cleopatra, Agamemnon, Cicero, Marc Antony, Brutus, Hannibal, Scipio - all of these are well-known in modern times (most of them are probably better known in the United States than is Margaret Thatcher - or any English prime minister not named Blair or Churchill). That we remember little of a thousand years ago isn't necessarily indicative of what will be remembered a thousand years from now, or, perhaps better, a thousand years from a particularly notable time.

 

[RobertScorpio]

^ Simultaneously, we quite well remember several important persons from Greek and Roman times - Alexander, for instance, or Julius Caesar, Pompey, Cleopatra, Agamemnon, Cicero, Marc Antony, Brutus, Hannibal, Scipio - all of these are well-known in modern times (most of them are probably better known in the United States than is Margaret Thatcher - or any English prime minister not named Blair or Churchill). That we remember little of a thousand years ago isn't necessarily indicative of what will be remembered a thousand years from now, or, perhaps better, a thousand years from a particularly notable time.

I hadn't thought of that, and you are right! Good point!