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[Mr Awe]

You know, there was quite an "aftermath" to the Great War. We call it World War II.

No. The aftermath of World War I saw drastic political, cultural, economic, and social change across Europe, Asia, Africa, and even in areas outside those that were directly involved. Four empires collapsed due to the war, old countries were abolished, new ones were formed, boundaries were redrawn, international organizations were established, and many new and old ideologies took a firm hold in people's minds.There was rampant inflation in Germany. The Treaty of Versailles and rampant inflation caused unrest in Germany. Etc. Etc. WW2 was the aftermath to that stuff. Don't leap directly from one to the other!

It is quite feasible to have a second season that is not another war but the real aftermath of the war.

 

[Noname Given]

Eh even the speeds where inconsistant in the old show!
Too slow actually if I do remember it right....
Anyways...it really does not matter....it is what we are used to by now!
Hyperdrive, warp engine....what ever, it goes faster than light.

"Warp Speeds" have ALWAYS been inconsistently portrayed across ALL incarnations of Star Trek. Yes, characters have stated on screen in post TOS incarnations of Star trek: "Warp factor <X> is <X> times the speed of light..." <---- But then the ship will suddenly move 'at the speed of plot' which will either still be many times faster; or on occasion, many times slower that the actual speed stated on screen..
^^^
If anything the above is the ONLY thing that's been 'consistent' when dealing with 'Warp Speed' in any incarnation of Star Trek.

 

[Mr Awe]

So, which assertion do you object to:

• Plans change;
• Fuller had plans;
• World War II was rather a big deal?

What's the matter, Dennis? Are you finding that "nope" is an "answer" that says nothing and means nothing?! It's pretty much worthless in terms of making a case, right? Oh, the irony!

 

[Longinus]

True, they weren't referred to at all. Though my interpretation of what scant evidence there is is that those domes are where the matter/anti-matter reaction is taking place. We know that there was probably a reactor in each nacelle so it seems like a good place. Additionally, they're glowing to show the huge energies being handled. They perched way out there on the nacelles. Also the Constellation nacelle domes were both blown up when it was discovered a drift. Could they have been shot off by the Planet Killer? Sure. But both of them? They could have easily exploded from the reaction within. Lastly, they are missing from the refit Enterprise. Which just so happens to coincide with the first time we see the glowy chamber near the impulse engines and the vertical glowy intermix shaft within the ship. Why does the engineering crew suddenly need to wear radiation suits? Probably because a new design moved the reaction from out in the nacelles to inside the ship.

There's no absolute 100% solid evidence. But the nacelle-domes-are-NOT-bussards theory strings things together quite nicely. they could be something else. But having them be bussards seems like a very weak use of an awesome feature.

So basically you have formulated your own fan theory and will be infuriated if the producers don't follow it. That is absurd.

I really have no problem with the idea that TOS warp engine setup is basically the same than in the later shows, nothing in the show really directly contradicts it, even though it may not have been envisioned working that way at the time.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Oh now I will commit harakiri.......the horror

Cubs Win!!

"Warp Speeds" have ALWAYS been inconsistently portrayed across ALL incarnations of Star Trek. Yes, characters have stated on screen in post TOS incarnations of Star trek: "Warp factor <X> is <X> times the speed of light..." <---- But then the ship will suddenly move 'at the speed of plot' which will either still be many times faster; or on occasion, many times slower that the actual speed stated on screen..
^^^
If anything the above is the ONLY thing that's been 'consistent' when dealing with 'Warp Speed' in any incarnation of Star Trek.

A larger inconsistency is not that warp "whatever" is "N" times the speed of light (which can be chalked up to just a change in units), but rather that it takes X amount of time to go "Y" light years. That has also varied.

 

[BillJ]

It is quite feasible to have a second season that is not another war but the real aftermath of the war.

But it'll still likely be more Klingons. A horse that has already been beaten to death 500 times.

 

[JD]

Except it's going to be a different take on the Klingons, so it's not going to be the exact same thing we've gotten before. If this was the TNG - ENT version again, I could see, but it's pretty clear these won't be.
Just because it's set in the Prime Universe 10 years before TOS, doesn't mean it's going to be an exact recreation of what we saw and heard in TOS.

I realized something kind of funny, I'm reading a TOS story right now, and it's bugging me that they keep using terminology and things from the 24th Century shows but at the same time I'm not bothered by Discovery doing the same thing. I realized after a minute or two where the big difference for me is, the books are meant to be an exact, or as close as possible, recreation of TOS, but DSC is not.

 

[Tuskin38]

Huh, I decided to look it up, Enterprise used the term 'Warp Reactor' 36 times, and only used 'Warp Core' only 12 times.

I just assumed they used Warp Core more because it was modern Trek.

Well they say one should never assume.
Mind you I only looked up those two words together, its possible they made have said only 'reactor' or 'core' without the warp.

 

[James T Kirk]

Looks visually stunning, but, to be honest, if "Star Trek" wasn't in the title, I'd have no interest in that. For an episode or a few episodes, sure. As the narrative throughline, not so much.

I'm still excited, but I'm clinging to the hope that there's a lot more story diversity than the promos are giving us.

Well stated. Agree 100%.

The people they picked to play the roles look like they suck and thats a big part of it.

Look at Picard then look at these people.

 

[Ridcully]

Waaarp speed!!!!

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Looks visually stunning, but, to be honest, if "Star Trek" wasn't in the title, I'd have no interest in that. For an episode or a few episodes, sure. As the narrative throughline, not so much.

I'm still excited, but I'm clinging to the hope that there's a lot more story diversity than the promos are giving us.

Personally, I feel that any show that features both a 200-year old Ancient Klingon Sect and Harry Mudd would seem to suggest some diversity of stories.

I think most of the promo clips we have seen so far are from the pilot episodes and not necessarily the other 13 episodes.

 

[uniderth]

Wow, so with almost a century's worth of TV, that is the only non-Trek show that lasted more than three or four seasons, that you watch?

"I Love Lucy" is about a yearly rewatch. I own seasons to other >4 season shows like Hogan's Heros, MacGyver.

I've watched The Mentalist and own all the seasons. I've watched Falling Skies. But I haven't rewatched them.

I own and rewatch many other movies, and shorter TV shows. Firefly, Jericho, seaQuest DSV, etc.

But I would have to say that "I Love Lucy" is the only long running show that I both own and frequently rewatch. I'd probably rewatch M*A*S*H frequently if I owned all the seasons.

 

[starmike]

But when you ignore the look, the style of storytelling, terminology created by the writers of that show, it becomes a death by a thousand cuts.

To you.

Not to everyone else who doesn't give a rat's ass and understands that TOS was made in the ***60s***

 

[Mr Awe]

But it'll still likely be more Klingons. A horse that has already been beaten to death 500 times.

Maybe, maybe not. You're trying to guess the 2nd season when we haven't even seen the first yet!

 

[Mr Awe]

Well stated. Agree 100%.

The people they picked to play the roles look like they suck and thats a big part of it.

Look at Picard then look at these people.

You're looking at Picard after 7 seasons and 4 movies compared to a few minutes of heavily edited promo material. Not really a fair comparison.

I'm not saying that you'll end up liking the new characters. Who knows, right? I'm saying that you don't have enough information to make that determination right now.

 

[uniderth]

and understands that TOS was made in the ***60s***

Being made years ago doesn't make it inferior and need to be pushed aside.

That's one of the things I used to think was great about the Star Trek Franchise. We were good enough that we didn't need, remakes, reboots, or reimaginings. We were even able to incorporate the Pilot Episode into our series. But now suddenly our past isn't good enough anymore and we're not even willing to give a little bit of effort to make things fit. Nope, we're just going to reboot, remaster, reimagine, and then say "***k you" to anyone who disagrees.

 

[MvRojo]

But it'll still likely be more Klingons. A horse that has already been beaten to death 500 times.

Klingons can be involved without being the focus of whatever storyline they want to tell in Season 2.

“Each season needs to be about a different thing,” said Kurtzman. “I wouldn’t necessarily want to bring the Klingon War into season two. However, the results of the war are going to allow for a lot of new storytelling that will be the result of everything that happens and the people that are left behind; the casualties, the things that have grown in Starfleet as a result of the war. That’s what we’ll inherit in the second season.”

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

Well stated. Agree 100%.

The people they picked to play the roles look like they suck and thats a big part of it.

Look at Picard then look at these people.

This is what I'm talking about. I don't insist you like what I like, but this isn't just "having concerns", this is making up your mind, and without having watched one episode.

 

[starmike]

Being made years ago doesn't make it inferior and need to be pushed aside.

Sorry, where did I say it should be "pushed aside"?

I'm saying that they were only able to do so much. People are whining about irrelevant items.

I'm going to say a dirty word here:

*whispers*
warp...core....

 

[Mage]

Well stated. Agree 100%.

The people they picked to play the roles look like they suck and thats a big part of it.

Look at Picard then look at these people.

And here I was thinking the warp core argument was stupid.....