Olympus Descending Question

[Locutus of Bored]

Pardon me if this has been asked before.

I just finished reading 'Olympus Descending,' and while I know that Taran'atar's aspect of the story continues in 'Warpath,' I was curious if there are any plans in the near future to follow up on the situation in the Dominion as it was left at the end of the book?

Thanks in advance.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Nothing has been announced at this time. Of course, that doesn't mean nothing is being planned, but you just won't hear about it until it's officially announced.

 

[JD]

I find it hard to belive that they would do something as huge as what they did in OD and not follow up on it. But, Like EMH said, noone has said anything about it yet.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^^^ I figured the same, because that was about as major a development as you can get, but I was just curious if there was anything in the pipeline near term.

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[JeremyW]

I remember when we had the big discussion of Warpath, when a bunch of us were speculating what was happening next in the stories, that the situation with the Asecendants, the Eav'Oq and the Prophets was unresolved as well, and led down a unique path in Kira's vision led to people speculating that the Federation and the heroes of DS9 would team up with an Odo controlled Dominion to tackle this threat, to which David Mack gave a gold star to Mary Dax for it. At least, if I remember properly.

 

[Gamma_Quadrant]

I have to say, as a fan of the Dominion, I find what was done to the Great Link in the book shameful. It actually turned me off from Trek books for a while.

I hope they find a way to undo that. If not, it is doubtful we'll be seeing much of the Dominion anymore.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^ and does 2+2=5?

 

[Gamma_Quadrant]

Evil Turtle said:
^ and does 2+2=5?

I'm curious as to why so many people on this website are so rude. I say something you don't like and you make an insulting post (anywhere else it'd be called "spam") on my intelligence.

I was simply commenting on the book that this topic is about. The book itself was well written, as most Trek books are. However, what was done to the Great Link does not seem very consistent from what we've seen of them on the television series.

But to answer the question of the original poster, I'm sure they'll be seen again in some shape or form. At least, Odo will and through him we'll get an answer on what happened.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It wasn't intended to rude, it just seemed like an odd conclusion to make that...

Gamma_Quadrant said:
...it is doubtful we'll be seeing much of the Dominion anymore.

...when the ending of Olympus Decending stated anything but. The last line of the book has Odo telling Laas that as of that moment, they would lead the Dominion. And other posters in the thread have pointed out that it seems as if future DS9 books will show us an Odo-run Dominion teaming with Bajor to fight the Ascendents. That hardly seems to me that it's "doubtful" that will see the Dominion again. The exact opposite seems obvious to me.

 

[Gamma_Quadrant]

Perhaps I did not really clarify what I meant. Sorry about that.

The Changelings are, according to them, the Dominion. Without them, the Dominion is leaderless. Yes, Odo and Laas can lead it and some defunct Dominion can exist. However, the Great Link (unless something is done in a future book) won't really exist anymore. Thus, my comment that hopefully something will make that terrible fate undone. The Changelings were one of the coolest aliens seen on Trek. It's a shame they were all (most) done for in one fell swoop.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Gotcha. So rather than "The Dominion", it was "The Great Link" that we won't be seeing. And I do agree with you there, for the most part. While I wouldn't use the word "shameful" to describe the fate of the Link, I might use the word "unfortunate", as I liked the concept of the Great Link as well.

 

[Trent Roman]

One could also question whether the Dominion under the relatively benign leadership of Odo really is the Dominion, and not the beginning of the transition to a brand new astro-political entity (or lack thereof). Odo's not really the dominating type, and while the infrastructure that the Dominion built up isn't going to vanish overnight, I don't see Odo sending the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta after Dominion subject races who see the vacuum at the top as the perfect opportunity to regain their sovereignty.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[KRAD]

^ I dunno, Great Britain was still Great Britain when Parliament gained all the power and the monarchy became an irrelevant sideshow (which admittedly, didn't happen in one shot like it did to the Dominion).

 

[David R. George III]

As far as I'm concerned, one of the hallmarks of the Deep Space Nine television series was interesting, dramatic, and surprising but understandable change. What happened to the Dominion at the conclusion of Olympus Descending fulfills that legacy (or at least I intended it to do so). As for what comes next, well, there are virtually an infinite number of possibilities, far more than are touched upon in this thread. Let the story come. Trust Marco. Trust the writers. You may enjoy reading how all of this plays out. (Then again, you may not. Sorry that OD didn't satisfy all of you.)

 

[Trent Roman]

KRAD said:
^ I dunno, Great Britain was still Great Britain when Parliament gained all the power and the monarchy became an irrelevant sideshow (which admittedly, didn't happen in one shot like it did to the Dominion).

Not comparable. For one thing, the Great Link and Odo have highly divergeant views on policy, whereas the transfer of power from the British Monarchy to (initially) the House of Lords was just a transfer from one small group of inbred aristocratic jingos to a bigger group of inbred aristocratic jingos. For another, the devolution of powers from the crown and finally to the House of Commons took place over a goodly period of time (centuries if you want to track it all the way back to the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution), during which the society and its priorities changed as well. So no, I don't think the Great Britain of today is the same entity as the Great Britain of even a hundred years ago--it's much, much smaller, has very different policy priorities in place and is reduced in influence from world-spanning empire to "please Mr. President, may I have a bone". What's happened to the Dominion was sudden and shocking, and in terms of subject races probably more akin to the effect of WWII on dismantling the overseas European colonies.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Gamma_Quadrant said:
I have to say, as a fan of the Dominion, I find what was done to the Great Link in the book shameful. It actually turned me off from Trek books for a while.

To each their own I guess, but I find that an odd reaction. Personally, I loved that development and it left me wanting more. But even if you didn't care for it, why would it put you off of reading other Trek books, most of which have storylines completely unrelated to this development?

I hope they find a way to undo that. If not, it is doubtful we'll be seeing much of the Dominion anymore.

In its traditional form? Not likely.

Odo sought to change the Founders by relaying his experiences with Solids. The Founders were definitely changed in this book, though in a much more drastic and different way than Odo had ever intended.

I'm just confused by your position though. Did you really think that the status quo in the Dominion was going to be maintained throughout all of the stories featuring Odo and the Link? It was pretty much a given that some major change was going to occur in the Dominion eventually, otherwise what was the point of even showing more stories about them?

David R. George III said:
As far as I'm concerned, one of the hallmarks of the Deep Space Nine television series was interesting, dramatic, and surprising but understandable change. What happened to the Dominion at the conclusion of Olympus Descending fulfills that legacy (or at least I intended it to do so). As for what comes next, well, there are virtually an infinite number of possibilities, far more than are touched upon in this thread. Let the story come. Trust Marco. Trust the writers. You may enjoy reading how all of this plays out. (Then again, you may not. Sorry that OD didn't satisfy all of you.)

Well, I thought it was a great story. :thumbsup:

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Trent Roman said: I don't see Odo sending the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta after Dominion subject races who see the vacuum at the top as the perfect opportunity to regain their sovereignty.

It would indeed be very sh'oqing if he did that.

 

[JD]

No, just stop that.

The whole thing with the "end" of the Great Link was actually one of my favorite parts of the book, it was just such a shocking, fascinating development and I cannot wait to see what happens to Odo next.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

JD said:
No, just stop that.

Now why would I do a thing like that? I can t'oq the t'oq and w'oq the w'oq.

 

[BrotherBenny]

Babaganoosh said:

JD said:
No, just stop that.

Now why would I do a thing like that? I can t'oq the t'oq and w'oq the w'oq.

I prefer Oliver Twist.

You gotta pick a p'oqet or two, you gotta pick a p'oqet or two