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OK from Kelvin movies to regular Star Trek what are things like public transport and such on Earth like?

Gingerbread Demon

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I mean in the Kelvin timeline movies we saw things like buses and in the UK scenes of Into Darkness there was a red London Bus but it looked futuristic and I think had no wheels. So buses do exist in the future. What other mass transit would still exist in the future, using the films as both reboot and original Trek as a guide?

Do we still have things like air travel, trains? Scotty bought a boat so boats are still in use by people .
 
Presumably a lot of air travel was rendered unnecessary by transporters. We do still see stuff like the school shuttle in Children of Mars, but I don't recall if we've seen larger public transport.

We've seen multiple "tube train" set-ups, in places like outside Starfleet Headquarters in Home Front.
There's also the Trans Fransisco service, operating for hundreds of years, seen in Past Tense and Non Sequiter.

...and people still take hansom cab rides in San Fransisco. :)

Edit: I just remembered Picard caught a taxi shuttle in PIC season one.
 
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Okey doke.

It's only about seven or eight minutes long if you ever want to.

I just looked it up and there are also bicycles in one of Soji's photos. The photos are fakes of course, but still stands to reason they wouldn't have put bikes in the pic if it would alert someone that there's something odd going on.
 
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NOTE: The Sikarian's Spatial Trajector, once the Tech was assimilated by "The Borg" from some Sikarians, seem to only be reserved for the Borg Queen to use as a Escape Method instead of a primary form of Teleportation.
I find that very odd, since we know that the Sikarian's depended on the TetraHedral Quartz in the Mantle of their Home Planet to focus and amplify the trajector field to accomplish that 40,000 ly "Spatial Trajecting" Travel Range. From my Napkin math based on the 'La Sirena's' travel time of several days to Nepenthe, I think the range limit on the "Spatial Trajector" when used w/o the benefit of a massive amount of TetraHedral Quartz in the Mantle of a M-Class Planet would be MUCH lower than the 40,000 ly near Maximum Range that the Sikarian's had.

There was a notice-able charge time to power up the portal on the Borg Queen Chambers and the distance is likely > 10 ly, that's why it would take Rio's several days at 'Maximum Warp' to meet him at Nepenthe
Even if La Sirena was traveling at Warp 9 for 3 days, that would be at least ~12.5 ly away.

So even if the Spatial Trajector Technology was used by OutSiders like the Borg/UFP/Romulans, it would have a very "High Energy Charge Time" before it can even be used.
And you would be on your own w/o StarShip/StarBase Orbital Support since the StarShip/StarBase would need to catch up for you.
PRO(s):
+ Great for inserting Recon/Scout Forces onto a Planet or Orbital Facility/Vessel w/o having to be in orbit of said target.
CON(s):
- Bad if you want to support the Away Team and you're no-where close by and need to physically catch up.
- Probably needs real time Telemetry on the Target that you're Trajecting your Away Team onto, other-wise you might send them into the vacuum of Space accidentally if you're off with the Real Time Positioning Data.

A target like a Planetary Body, assuming you know it's Rotational Cycle and where it should be is trivial.
Once you have the data and last known corrdinates of the Planet along with it's historical information for Rotation period/Orbital period, Travel Path, etc, that should be trivial to calculate.
A target like a StarShip or StarBase would be far more complicated since you would need some Observer nearby to give you that info via advanced Low Latency Hyper-Subspace links.

So it's not all "Sunshine & Rainbows" just because you have a Spatial Trajector to Teleport People around.

Also, the range seems to be fairly limited, from my current Napkin Math estimates, it's probably Single-Digit to Double-Digit Light Years based on what I can observe and Power Limitations to focus the signal onto the target w/o outside aid of Massive Planetary Objects likt eh "TetraHedral Quartz" in the mantle of a M-Class Planet, something that you're not going to be able to practically bring along with you on a StarShip / StarBase.

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In 2025 people choose to drive to different places, use ferries/boats or trains instead of taking the plane. I don't think transporters will totally replace traditional public transport.
 
Discovery and Picard both depicted future Earth with loads of flying cars. The Kelvin universe had both ground and air cars. One ground car was a real-life car, prototype Aptera 2e. There's a yellow school bus visible when Khan jumps out the Vengeance window following the crash scene too
 
In 2025 people choose to drive to different places, use ferries/boats or trains instead of taking the plane. I don't think transporters will totally replace traditional public transport.
I think Transporters are for "Super Long Range" travel where it would eat a significant amount of time.

The raw Energy Costs for DeMaterializing/ReMaterializing & Transmission must be pretty significant to see people not using it for trivial every day travel but for long range.

Remember Picard went from his Chatteau in France to San Francisco via Public Transporter Arches.

Why waste countless hours when you can be there in seconds.

But local travel, the raw energy costs can't beat traditional Vehicles cost of operation for the short distance needed.

Plus you have a Vehicle with you and all the advantages that confers.
 
I wonder if a bicycle would be out of place

Not necessarily, though it would depend upon the circumstances.

Bikes are still massively popular in my country (Netherlands) as a means of transportation, even though cars have existed for well over a century now, and we certainly have the money for car ownership. But bikes are simply often quicker and more convenient where we live (having to commute short distances in very densely populated areas in flat terrain- lots of cars cause traffic congestions). (And there are the additional advantages of them being more environmentally friendly, and better for your health as well). I see no reason why such circumstances couldn't occur in the 24 century, unless transporter technology would have become truly ubiquitous even for the most trivial and mundane of transportation movements (and I've got the impression this isn't really the case - perhaps in the 32nd century as shown by Discovery.).

High tech options aren't necessarily the best options. It all depends upon circumstances.
 
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That was cool showing all those different things but the comments section was a bit of a nightmare..

Even in TMP the Golden Gate was covered in solar panels you can't blame Kurtzman for that stupid twats
 
Even in TMP the Golden Gate was covered in solar panels you can't blame Kurtzman for that stupid twats
That's just how irrational Kurtzman critics are. By the same token, Terry Matalas could have shown the Golden Gate bridge covered in solar panels and the same people who think Kurtzman should be fired for doing that will think it's the most brilliant idea ever.
 
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I think some of those clips are stretching the definition of public transport well beyond the breaking point.
 
Well, it is a Major Grin video.
Breaking is his middle name.

The future of transportation because walking is so hard:
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That's just how irrational Kurtzman critics are. By the same token, Terry Matalas could have shown the Golden Gate bridge covered in solar panels and the same people who think Kurtzman should be fired for doing that will think it's the most brilliant idea ever.


Ain't that the truth. The Kurtzman haters are hilarious
 
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