Official Trailer Review & Comments Thread!! [Spoilers, of course]

[websbestcomics]

Well, I just saw the trailer in front of the Bond flick today. I have to admit, I'm a little baffled by what I've seen so far. The writer in me wonders why they chose to put young Kirk on a motorcyle instead of on horseback? That was a missed opportunity to draw a strong contrast between Jim Kirk's farm-boy origins and the futuristic construction of the 1701. It would have been a far more compelling scene, anyway. Plus, Kirk is a cowboy in spirit, right? It was so right seeing Shatner on a horse in the Nexus...

Of course, Kirk leaving an idealized existence in the Nexus is the only time Kirk was seen on a horse or even talked about a horse. Horses were Picard's cup of tea, not Kirk (until TNG writers decided he was).

Besides, you want him to ride a horse all the way to San Francisco from Iowa?

Well, actually I didn't get the impression that he had been riding a bike from Iowa to San Francisco in that clip--or that the scene with the shipyard was in San Francisco. It looked like in the middle of a desert, but the trailer was so fast paced I'm not sure, honestly.

I had no idea Picard liked horses. That seems incredibly out of character?
As a fan of TOS, I just assumed that since Kirk grew up in Iowa, that he would be very familiar with horses--plus his idea of heaven (the nexus)clearly showed us his roots were in the country, and horses played a huge part of that. All of that has been established in canon, and is not some obscure reference in an old episode, but a significant scene in Generations.

 

[websbestcomics]

Well, I just saw the trailer in front of the Bond flick today. I have to admit, I'm a little baffled by what I've seen so far. The writer in me wonders why they chose to put young Kirk on a motorcyle instead of on horseback?

Well, for one thing I'm not sure how audiences would've reacted to seeing young Jimmy Kirk send a horse over a cliff.

I was referring to the bike scene, not the car chase But you just made me laugh with that visual!

 

[SonicRanger]

I had no idea Picard liked horses. That seems incredibly out of character?
As a fan of TOS, I just assumed that since Kirk grew up in Iowa, that he would be very familiar with horses--plus his idea of heaven (the nexus)clearly showed us his roots were in the country, and horses played a huge part of that. All of that has been established in canon, and is not some obscure reference in an old episode, but a significant scene in Generations.

Growing up in Iowa doesn't necessarily mean you grew up in the country or around horses. And we really have no idea how long Kirk lived in Iowa or how old he was.

My point was that Kirk's horse riding comes from a TNG film 30 years after the original series. If you can accept that, you can accept another film 15 years later establishing that he like antique motorcycles too.

 

[TK421]

I had no idea Picard liked horses. That seems incredibly out of character?
As a fan of TOS, I just assumed that since Kirk grew up in Iowa, that he would be very familiar with horses--plus his idea of heaven (the nexus)clearly showed us his roots were in the country, and horses played a huge part of that. All of that has been established in canon, and is not some obscure reference in an old episode, but a significant scene in Generations.

Growing up in Iowa doesn't necessarily mean you grew up in the country or around horses. And we really have no idea how long Kirk lived in Iowa or how old he was.

My point was that Kirk's horse riding comes from a TNG film 30 years after the original series. If you can accept that, you can accept another film 15 years later establishing that he like antique motorcycles too.

The motorcycle thing I think is a stroke of brilliance. Shatner loves motorcycles and used to ride them off into the desert when he wasn't shooting Trek. There are pictures of him.

Kirk on a motorcycle is exactly right, imo.

 

[Star Treks]

I just want to say that I am flabbergasted that so many people have chosen to focus negatively on the fact that apparently the Enterprise is shown being built on Earth, in this movie.

Star Trek has its good science moments and its bad ones; and it has seemingly violated its own canon plenty of times. It doesn't matter. What matters is whether the movie is good (actually, for me, what matters is that the movie makes enough money to spark interest in another TV show, because I need more than 2 hours of new Trek).

I dunno, it just seems like a silly thing to fixate on. I feel like those who have negative feelings about the movie in general are picking certain rallying poitns to cry about and losing sight of the big picture. None of us, or at least nobody who hasn't seen a good 20-minute preview, really know if we're going to like the movie or not, but aren't there better things to worry about than where the Enterprise is constructed? Maybe I'm just not a die-hard fan, but I really don't care even a little bit. I couldn't think of a thing less important to worry about, sorry.

If I were you, I would be more worried about the stupid f--ing kid stuff lasting more than 2 minutes in this movie. We don't need a goddamn Young Anakin Skywalker Kirk.

 

[Rii]

I just want to say that I am flabbergasted that so many people have chosen to focus negatively on the fact that apparently the Enterprise is shown being built on Earth, in this movie.

I wish the board allowed users to set up per-thread and per-forum filters to exclude posts containing certain words. In this instance, excluding from view all posts containing the word "built" would make this thread far more readable.

 

[SonicRanger]

The motorcycle thing I think is a stroke of brilliance. Shatner loves motorcycles and used to ride them off into the desert when he wasn't shooting Trek. There are pictures of him.

Kirk on a motorcycle is exactly right, imo.

Yup, yup:

http://www.trekcore.com/specials/albums/rare/article2/shatner_motorcycle.jpg

 

[websbestcomics]

I just want to say that I am flabbergasted that so many people have chosen to focus negatively on the fact that apparently the Enterprise is shown being built on Earth, in this movie.

Star Trek has its good science moments and its bad ones; and it has seemingly violated its own canon plenty of times. It doesn't matter. What matters is whether the movie is good (actually, for me, what matters is that the movie makes enough money to spark interest in another TV show, because I need more than 2 hours of new Trek).

I dunno, it just seems like a silly thing to fixate on. I feel like those who have negative feelings about the movie in general are picking certain rallying poitns to cry about and losing sight of the big picture. None of us, or at least nobody who hasn't seen a good 20-minute preview, really know if we're going to like the movie or not, but aren't there better things to worry about than where the Enterprise is constructed? Maybe I'm just not a die-hard fan, but I really don't care even a little bit. I couldn't think of a thing less important to worry about, sorry.

If I were you, I would be more worried about the stupid f--ing kid stuff lasting more than 2 minutes in this movie. We don't need a goddamn Young Anakin Skywalker Kirk.

Agree completely. I just want this stuff to make sense, and if it does blatantly defile canon, such as all this different hardware etc, I hope there's an explanation that will somehow bridge it to TOS. Even in TMP, we knew the 1701 was getting a refit, so that explained why it looked different. There was also the sense that starfleet was undergoing radical change, and so I easily accepted the new uniforms etc. But this new movie is taking us back to the beginning of it. We need some kind of bridge to TOS, I think.

 

[Rii]

The motorcycle thing I think is a stroke of brilliance. Shatner loves motorcycles and used to ride them off into the desert when he wasn't shooting Trek. There are pictures of him.

I believe Chris Pine is portraying Captain Kirk in the film, not William Shatner.

 

[T'Bonz]

Is this Sarek or old Spock whom Amanda touches so affectionately on the cheek?

Sarek. The young Amanda appears to be holding a baby in a blanket in her arms, which would be Spock.

 

[trekkiebaggio]

I was loving it and then the red alert sounded and that made the whole thing. I'm still not sure about the bridge, but the space scenes looked great.

 

[DWF]

I just want to say that I am flabbergasted that so many people have chosen to focus negatively on the fact that apparently the Enterprise is shown being built on Earth, in this movie.

Star Trek has its good science moments and its bad ones; and it has seemingly violated its own canon plenty of times. It doesn't matter. What matters is whether the movie is good (actually, for me, what matters is that the movie makes enough money to spark interest in another TV show, because I need more than 2 hours of new Trek).

I dunno, it just seems like a silly thing to fixate on. I feel like those who have negative feelings about the movie in general are picking certain rallying poitns to cry about and losing sight of the big picture. None of us, or at least nobody who hasn't seen a good 20-minute preview, really know if we're going to like the movie or not, but aren't there better things to worry about than where the Enterprise is constructed? Maybe I'm just not a die-hard fan, but I really don't care even a little bit. I couldn't think of a thing less important to worry about, sorry.

If I were you, I would be more worried about the stupid f--ing kid stuff lasting more than 2 minutes in this movie. We don't need a goddamn Young Anakin Skywalker Kirk.

Agree completely. I just want this stuff to make sense, and if it does blatantly defile canon, such as all this different hardware etc, I hope there's an explanation that will somehow bridge it to TOS. Even in TMP, we knew the 1701 was getting a refit, so that explained why it looked different. There was also the sense that starfleet was undergoing radical change, and so I easily accepted the new uniforms etc. But this new movie is taking us back to the beginning of it. We need some kind of bridge to TOS, I think.

Leonard Nimoy isn't a big enough bridge to TOS?

 

[tomalak301]

Well, I just saw the trailer in front of the Bond flick today. I have to admit, I'm a little baffled by what I've seen so far. The writer in me wonders why they chose to put young Kirk on a motorcyle instead of on horseback? That was a missed opportunity to draw a strong contrast between Jim Kirk's farm-boy origins and the futuristic construction of the 1701. It would have been a far more compelling scene, anyway. Plus, Kirk is a cowboy in spirit, right? It was so right seeing Shatner on a horse in the Nexus...

Of course, Kirk leaving an idealized existence in the Nexus is the only time Kirk was seen on a horse or even talked about a horse. Horses were Picard's cup of tea, not Kirk (until TNG writers decided he was).

Besides, you want him to ride a horse all the way to San Francisco from Iowa?

I had no idea Picard liked horses. That seems incredibly out of character?
As a fan of TOS, I just assumed that since Kirk grew up in Iowa, that he would be very familiar with horses--plus his idea of heaven (the nexus)clearly showed us his roots were in the country, and horses played a huge part of that. All of that has been established in canon, and is not some obscure reference in an old episode, but a significant scene in Generations.

Watch Pen Pals or Starship Mine. Both episodes showed Picard's interest in Horses. As for Kirk, I forgave Generations because we really didn't learn that much about his past did we? I thought the horse thing was just "nice".

 

[RAMA]

Be prepared to hear (non-Trek fan) reviewers bring this point up when the film is released next May.

I will be staggered and amazed if anyone cares - if they do, they need to get out more.

Exactly, 95% or more will not even care.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

The motorcycle thing I think is a stroke of brilliance. Shatner loves motorcycles and used to ride them off into the desert when he wasn't shooting Trek. There are pictures of him.

Kirk on a motorcycle is exactly right, imo.

Yup, yup:

http://www.trekcore.com/specials/albums/rare/article2/shatner_motorcycle.jpg

Will they have Future Spock take naked pictures of big women as well?

 

[Takvah]

I've been a Trek fan for 30+ years and I like what I'm seeing.

Let's face it, the production values on a lot of the movies in the franchise have been lacking. What we seem to get are two part episodes passed off as feature films. What I am seeing with Abrams creation is a real effort to take Trek and to bring it back to the era of the first two films which were epic. Paramount and Co., got very cheap (using footage over and over, etc.) and now I see a lot of cash being thrown at the series. They aren't going after the built in audience (we the fans), they're looking to bring some new fans onboard. I don't think it's such a bad thing. There was a lot I hated about TNG as a fan of TOS and the feature films. As a fan that happens to love the warlike Klingons, I was sickened by Worf. The D looked like an AMC Gremlin, and worse... it was full of FAMILIES?! Oh my God, did they just separate the saucer?! Instead of a Vulcan they threw in an android who is trying to reconcile his "humanity"?! I could go on and on.

When you think about it, there has always been a lot to whine about whenever the franchise has boldly gone... someplace different. I've been cool with it (with the exception of Enterprise) and I love most of what Abrams has done in the past... so I am optimistic. It would be easy for me to assume the role of the crotchety oldschool fan and to declare this film an abomination. I'm going to instead do the hard thing, and accept that things change... give this cast and crew a chance... and be happy that I get to see great characters like Kirk, Spock, McCoy et al in another adventure. There's nothing to complain about when you consider how COOL that is.

Bring on MAY!

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Maybe it was the sound of the claxon, but despite them looking VERY different, I found myself recognizing the corridors as those of Kirk's Enterprise.

I think you've mixed up "Kirk's Enterprise" with the "Wildfire" laboratory featured in Robert Wise's The Andromeda Strain:

TGT

Yep, but remember... despite when "The Andromeda Strain" came out... the "white with curving walls" idea is NEW... and the TOS-type corridors are "late 60s/early 70s."

I actually love this movie, by the way... picked it up on DVD just a few months ago, too.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

It seems that Kirk never really learned how to drive stick...remember A Piece of the Action?

Is there anywhere here where someone does a shot by shot analysis of the trailer? I still don't know what some of the things I saw were.

Ah, but in the NEW version of Trek, that episode no longer "really happened." So... cough cough... it's just hunky-dory.

 

[JoeZhang]

Re-watching the trailer, I think Kirk is hiding under Uhura's bed at one stage...

 

[SalvorHardin]

It seems that Kirk never really learned how to drive stick...remember A Piece of the Action?

Is there anywhere here where someone does a shot by shot analysis of the trailer? I still don't know what some of the things I saw were.

Ah, but in the NEW version of Trek, that episode no longer "really happened." So... cough cough... it's just hunky-dory.

Dammit...Now I will have to go and scratch my dvd's at the point this episode is stored.